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Old 10-31-2004, 04:02 PM
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Is Metlife really the largest actuarial employer? I thought Mercer held the title of World's Largest Employer of Actuaries.
Mercer sounds reasonable. It's certainly not Met.
I thought it traded b/w Tillinghast and Milliman, or is that just consultants?? Maybe I'm working w/ old info.
Depends on what you want to include. I went to the directory and checked how many members there were at ever company that I could think of as a large employer - if I missed any, feel free to add (numbers represent the number I found in the directory without considering all possible names, for example, I never looked for "Tillinghast", I just assumed that they used "Towers Perrin"):


Mercer is the largest employer of "actuaries" in the directory - SOA, EA, CAS, etc (967)
Towers Perrin (includes Tillinghast) is second (870) (101 P/C actuaries makes them likely the largest P/C consulting employer)
Watson Wyatt is third 605
Milliman 492
Hewitt 386
AON 325
ING 263 (largest life insrance company employer?)
Prudential 183
AIG 160
Aegon 157
Allstate 148
Metropolitan 137
New York Life 123
St Paul 119 (113 P/C, the largest P/C insurance employer?)

Either Tillinghast or Milliman could easily be the largest life insurance consulting employer - hard to distinguish life and pension consulting based solely on the directory.
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Mellon HR - 313

(This is the combined total of the former Buck + the former Kwasha Lipton operations.)
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Does St. Paul really employ more P/C actuaries than Allstate? And where is State Farm on this list?
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Does St. Paul really employ more P/C actuaries than Allstate? And where is State Farm on this list?
We [St. Paul] did merge with this other company recently - you might have heard of them - Travelers.
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Does St. Paul really employ more P/C actuaries than Allstate? And where is State Farm on this list?
Probably, now that St. Paul and Travelers merged. Allstate has a lot of students. If St. Paul has more diverse lines of business, that means more interesting opportunities for fellows and higher expected retention.
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Does St. Paul really employ more P/C actuaries than Allstate? And where is State Farm on this list?
It's St. Paul Travelers, not St. Paul. St. Paul Travelers = 2nd Largest P/C insurer in the U.S. State Farm = Largest Automobile (CL and PL) insurer in the U.S.
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AXA also had 119

but I noticed some companies, especially with abbreviated names, different people entered the names differently
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actuaries are considered anyone who's an associate or fellow?
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