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Old 01-05-2007, 12:53 PM
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The U.S. government has barred information-technology firm Ciber from certifying the electronic-voting systems for states, after federal officials noted quality-control issues, according to an article in the New York Times.

After instituting an oversight program in July, officials at the U.S. Election Assistance Commission found that Ciber did not follow quality-control procedures nor document its testing process adequately, according to the news report. The ruling, handed down last summer, barred Ciber from certifying machines, but did not become public until Thursday, the New York Times stated.

The certification of e-voting machines has been widely criticized for its secretive nature and the fact that the voting machine makers themselves pay for the testing process, an action that undermines the independence of the results.

Even though few major issues were noted in November's midterm elections, civil-rights groups continue to criticize the lack of standards in e-voting system testing. E-voting system maker Diebold has most often come under fire--most recently for failing to patch flaws in their system in a timely manner and because security bugs open up some of their machines to a virus attack, according to Princeton University researchers.

Ciber submitted its application to get re-accredited this month and federal officials are studying the application, the company told the New York Times.
http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/399
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,241618,00.html
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Before the election, the US Government was working to reduce fraud, and improve quality control and documentation. Seems like we were all told that the fraud was Bush's fault, nothing was being done, or too little too late, etc. Where are all of those Republican victories, 2p?

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Old 01-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/01/fi...queaked_b.html

If the Republican success in the close elections had anything to do with the non-verifiable and non-auditable voting process, would we have any way of knowing, especially given the lax quality control procedures?
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:50 PM
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.
So you mean that there were a lot of Republicans who just barely beat their Democratic opponents? Wow, that's a shocker, I never would have guessed that.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:51 PM
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/01/fi...queaked_b.html

If the Republican success in the close elections had anything to do with the non-verifiable and non-auditable voting process, would we have any way of knowing, especially given the lax quality control procedures?
The only thing lax is the laxative that conspiracy theorists take to increase the volume of their contributions to society.
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/01/fi...queaked_b.html

If the Republican success in the close elections had anything to do with the non-verifiable and non-auditable voting process, would we have any way of knowing, especially given the lax quality control procedures?
If the people 'stealing' the election only left a margin of 1.5% of votes cast, they did a pretty crappy job of locking up that election.
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.
So you mean that there were a lot of Republicans who just barely beat their Democratic opponents? Wow, that's a shocker, I never would have guessed that.

Diebold made it close, but couldn't make them win.
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So you mean that there were a lot of Republicans who just barely beat their Democratic opponents? Wow, that's a shocker, I never would have guessed that.

Diebold made it close, but couldn't make them win.
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Translation: it will be the testing companies, like CIBER, who will be come the sacraficial lambs for the electronic voting industry.
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Of the 18 congressional races decided by 3% of the vote or less, 15 were won by Republicans, 3 by Democrats.
So you mean that there were a lot of Republicans who just barely beat their Democratic opponents? Wow, that's a shocker, I never would have guessed that.
And your point is?
I don't think the actual result is anything significant, but if you had to guess, even knowing what the overall number of winners and losers was by party, or by party within state, etc, wouldn't you still except the close elections to be about a 50-50 split, or maybe a slight edge to the Democrats?
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So you mean that there were a lot of Republicans who just barely beat their Democratic opponents? Wow, that's a shocker, I never would have guessed that.
And your point is?
I don't think the actual result is anything significant, but if you had to guess, even knowing what the overall number of winners and losers was by party, or by party within state, etc, wouldn't you still except the close elections to be about a 50-50 split, or maybe a slight edge to the Democrats?
Did you even look at the results? The Democrats did get a huge edge, almost got a monumental edge.

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