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A 3% mortality rate seems high? I'm definitely not an expert on epidemics, but that doesn't seem "bad."

I'm almost curious enough to try and find mortality rates for some other plagues. Almost...
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Hmm... mortality as a percent of diagnosed is not on first page of google directly.

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Still over the last 2 centuries, HIV/AIDs has been a much more deadly disease than any flu or other disease.
I think it's not just mortality rate that matters, but also communicability and ease of prevention. AIDS is definitely more deadly than a lot of other illnesses, but it's also harder to contract than an airborne respiratory disease, and a lot easier to prevent.

There's another illness (ebola? can't recall) with a really high mortality rate, and it's very communicable (if you're exposed the likelihood of getting it it high)... but it's also easier to prevent and to avoid exposure, because it's communicated through blood and certain other bodily fluids.

So how "deadly" a disease is ends up being a combination of 1) how likely is it that an average person will be exposed to the disease, 2) if they're exposed, how likely is it to develop into a full case versus being stomped out by a decent immune system and 3) how likely it is to kill a person who is infected.

So even though AIDS has a higher mortality rate... I think influenza still tops the charts in terms of being more "deadly" overall.

For funsies... I rather like the game "Plague". Besides the morbid goal of killing out the entire planet, it's kind of entertaining to see epidemiology in action that way
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Still over the last 2 centuries, HIV/AIDs has been a much more deadly disease than any flu or other disease.
I learned, somewhat recently, that scientists think HIV infected its first human in around 1908. :mindasplode:
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I learned, somewhat recently, that scientists think HIV infected its first human in around 1908. :mindasplode:
I heard a podcast on this, and it was directly observable in some ways back to the 1930s IIRC, and before that it's less certain, but it was in villages in Africa where literally the whole village could die out before they traveled far enough to infect another village, which is crazy to think about IMO. So, you'd have an outbreak and then it died out, much like what happens with Ebola these days.

Also, the virus continuously mutates (don't think this is unusual, but not sure), so they can look at the different strains and how different they are, compared to how fast they mutate, for an estimate as to how long the virus has been around. Which is kinda cool from a research standpoint.

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I heard a podcast on this, and it was directly observable in some ways back to the 1930s IIRC, and before that it's less certain, but it was in villages in Africa where literally the whole village could die out before they trailed far enough to infect another village, which is crazy to think about IMO. So, you'd have an outbreak and then it died out, much like what happens with Ebola these days.

Also, the virus continuously mutates (don't think this is unusual, but not sure), so they can look at the different strains and how different they are, compared to how fast they mutate, for an estimate as to how long the virus has been around. Which is kinda cool from a research standpoint.
I might have heard the same podcast!
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so like i feel like koala meat would make for a good taco w/ green sauce
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so like i feel like koala meat would make for a good taco w/ green sauce
with some shredded eucalyptus?
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the most shocking thing to me is that the food market this is linked to sells live koala for people to eat
I would probably kill mine before I ate it, unless that kind of thing is looked down on there.
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Having seen markets like that, I don't recall ever seeing someone leave with a live animal. The animal might be alive for you to pick out, but they then slaughter it before you take it home.

Often there would be chickens in small cages and you would pick out out and they person would then slaughter clean and dress it for you. Then hand it to you and off you would go.
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Okay, maybe not snakes, but bats.

https://www.technologyreview.com/f/6...aid.engagement



Okay, the first group was wrong, most likely.

In any case, perhaps eating bat soup is a bad idea.
Bats eat mosquitos, so bats are basically blood soup.
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