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http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a...-unusual-rate/

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I collected biographical information (including date of birth and date of death, if applicable) from the Internet Wrestling Database on all WWF wrestlers who are/would be younger than 60 in 2014, and who had at least 20 pay-per-view appearances between WrestleMania I in 1985 and the time the WWF was forced to change its name by the World Wildlife Fund in 2002 — for 203 in all.

I then calculated each wrestler’s chances of dying between the ages of 25 (roughly around when his or her career may have started) and however old he or she is/would be in 2014, using actuarial tables from the Social Security Administration. Because health technology has improved significantly, I used a 1990 actuarial table to cover years before 2000, a 2000 table to cover years 2000 to 2009, and a 2010 table to cover 2010 to the present.

I then broke them down by age groups and compared each group’s death rate with its expected death rate:



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There is accumulating evidence that divorced and separated people have much higher suicide rates than their married counterparts. In a previous paper published in this journal, it was observed that divorced and separated men were nearly 2.4 times more likely to kill themselves than their married counterparts.1 That study, however, failed to directly compare divorced men and women. While it informed us that divorced people are at higher risk of suicide than the married, it said nothing about the suicide risk of divorced men relative to divorced women. The purpose of this communication is to assess the magnitude of the differentials in suicide risk between the two groups, and explore possible reasons that might explain the disparities.

Data were obtained from the US National Longitudinal Mortality Study (NLMS), 1979–1989,2 and covariates used were taken from Kposowa.1 The response variable was the risk of suicide, and analysis was restricted to divorced and separated non-Hispanic white men and women. Proportional hazards regression models were fitted to the data, and relevant results are in table 1.

Model 1 presents the age adjusted effects of sex on the risk of suicide. Divorced men were over eight times more likely to commit suicide than divorced women (RR = 8.36, 95% CI = 4.24 to16.38). After taking into account other factors that have been reported to contribute to suicide, divorced men still experienced much increased risks of suicide than divorced women. They were nearly 9.7 times more likely to kill themselves than comparable divorced women (RR = 9.68, 95% CI = 4.87 to 19.22). Put another way, for every divorced woman that committed suicide, over nine divorced men killed themselves.

Uh, yes, but the suicide rate is much higher for men than women, no matter the marital status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_...ces_in_suicide

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Suicide rate for men in USA: 17.7/100K
Women: 4.5/100K

Now, that's about 4:1, not 9.7:1, but still.
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Thanks for posting that article, but I am a bit disappointed in it. It listed numerous possible reasons for the higher suicide rate for divorced men, but did not mention one reason I consider to be very likely: divorce is not causing men to commit suicide more frequently; rather, severe depression and other problems that lead to suicide also lead to divorce.
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Cause/effect/effect/cause. So hard to distinguish...
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Thanks for posting that article, but I am a bit disappointed in it. It listed numerous possible reasons for the higher suicide rate for divorced men, but did not mention one reason I consider to be very likely: divorce is not causing men to commit suicide more frequently; rather, severe depression and other problems that lead to suicide also lead to divorce.
Yeah.

There is also the "Married men have longer lives, married women have shorter ones" stories. Those are always fun.
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Another visualization on causes of death.

http://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-cause-patterns/
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Another visualization on causes of death.

http://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-cause-patterns/
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
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Another visualization on causes of death.

http://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-cause-patterns/
That doesn't render on my office computer. It did render on my gadget, but too small to see many details. I'd love to see the same thing for the US.
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That doesn't render on my office computer. It did render on my gadget, but too small to see many details. I'd love to see the same thing for the US.
Actually, there are drop-down menus at the top, and you can select U.S.
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