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I was offered a data scientist role at a large P&C shop that couldn't even beat my current salary. It would have also required me to move to an area with a 30% higher COL. They were effectively asking me to take a pay cut.
Out of curiousity, what was the comp for this prospective job?
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Personally, I'm not interested in titles anymore. The work they do is more telling than their name tag. My original comment was to emphasize that for the most part, it does not appear that many of these people are doing data science.

Salaries alone in the insurance industry for "data scientists" suggest that they are not doing the same work as "traditional" data scientists. Surely you're not going to make an argument that these people just love insurance so much that they are willing to get paid less.

If someone with an actuarial credential who does data science at an insurance company is getting paid well, it is likely due to their credential. I'd like to hear the salaries of some "data scientist actuarials" that don't have credentials.

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So you're saying insurance companies employ a lot of data lab techs, and give them scientist titles?
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Personally, I'm not interested in titles anymore. The work they do is more telling than their name tag. My original comment was to emphasize that for the most part, it does not appear that many of these people are doing data science.

Salaries alone in the insurance industry for "data scientists" suggest that they are not doing the same work as "traditional" data scientists. Surely you're not going to make an argument that these people just love insurance so much that they are willing to get paid less.

If someone with an actuarial credential who does data science at an insurance company is getting paid well, it is likely due to their credential. I'd like to hear the salaries of some "data scientist actuarials" that don't have credentials.

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They use fancy titles to attract more candidates. It makes employees feel special and it impresses friends and relatives. It's like telling someone you're VP at Bank of America.
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They use fancy titles to attract more candidates. It makes employees feel special and it impresses friends and relatives. It's like telling someone you're VP at Bank of America.
Yeah, have the same VP crap here, where pretty much everyone who has been at the bank long enough gets the title. Responsibility doesn't necessarily increase, compensation doesn't increase, yet all the sudden they have this VP title and everything is rad.

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Yeah, have the same VP crap here, where pretty much everyone who has been at the bank long enough gets the title. Responsibility doesn't necessarily increase, compensation doesn't increase, yet all the sudden they have this VP title and everything is rad.

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Which "here" are you talking about? The new one or the old one? (Have you moved yet?)
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Which "here" are you talking about? The new one or the old one? (Have you moved yet?)
I think he means the old one, considering that he said "everyone who has been at the bank."
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Which "here" are you talking about? The new one or the old one? (Have you moved yet?)
I haven't moved yet. February.

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I think he means the old one, considering that he said "everyone who has been at the bank."
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