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Old 05-23-2018, 02:02 PM
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Yeah, the phantom center is pretty darn good when I'm sitting dead in the center. But one day, I'd like to have a bigger room for watching movies. At that time, I hope to move the left and right speakers further apart. So I think a center will become more important when that happens.

The JBL 5 series uses a compression driver for the horn, which is a fairly unique sound. So I probably need to match it. Darn.

But lucky for me, the JBL 520C is on sale for $199 right now (normally $349). So I'm buying it again. Hopefully it will sound better using the Audyssey XT32 room correction. Also, I wonder if the problem is that it has a rear port that points into a big opening in my TV stand. That is, maybe it's creating weird resonances. I wonder if I could throw some insulator back there to deal with that?
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:21 PM
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to the audiophiles:

yanni or laurel? i know there's a separate thread on the topic, and maybe you posted there, but i'm looking for a more limited, self-selected response pool

the original recording was of "laurel"

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yanni or laurel? i know there's a separate thread on the topic, and maybe you posted there, but i'm looking for a more limited, self-selected response pool
I heard yanni when starting at low volume. As I turned it up, it turned into laurel. When I turned it back down, my ears heard laurel all the way down to silence. I gave my ears a few hours rest and tried again with the same results.

But this is all just EQ trickery. Yanni is at a lower frequency and laurel is at a higher frequency and depending on the acoustics / system / volume one is going to slightly overpower the other. If you listen on ear buds, for instance, you are almost assuredly going to hear laurel every time. If you listen to it on anything with a bass boost or subwoofer: yanni.
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I heard yanni on my iPhone. And on my AudioTechnica headphones. And on my big rig, which is really flat in terms of freq response.

But Vividox is right, if you fiddle with the EQ (as The NY Times link lets you easily do) then you can hear both.
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So, both sounds are coming out of the speaker, yet what one hears is different?

That is pretty much what I've been thinking the whole time.

I've heard "laurel" every time, but it's coming from an iPhone.
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Does that also explain the blue/gold dress, i.e., screen settings are affecting what one sees? Or is that just eyeballs?
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So, both sounds are coming out of the speaker, yet what one hears is different?

That is pretty much what I've been thinking the whole time.

I've heard "laurel" every time, but it's coming from an iPhone.
I think itís more like a Sound was recorded that sounds like both words. And depending on what equipment is used to reproduce that sound, and how it is perceived by an individual, determines what the individual hears.

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And keep in mind that one's hearing changes over time.

Listening on my MacBook Pro, my wife and I heard "Laurel." My kids heard "Yanny." We were in the same room, listening at the same time.
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But this is all just EQ trickery. Yanni is at a lower frequency and laurel is at a higher frequency and depending on the acoustics / system / volume one is going to slightly overpower the other.
It was the opposite... Laurel was emphasized at low frequencies and Yanni at the highs.

High frequency hearing is much stronger in children than adults, and keeps declining with increasing age, so kids would be much more likely to hear Yanni than their parents.
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