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View Poll Results: Will self driving autos kill car insurance?
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d'oh, ninja'd. Took a while to read.
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I like that idea. The AV should have to pass a test at least as rigorous as a regular old driving test that 16 year-olds have to pass.
They should have to pass the multiple choice test and the vision test.

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And ideally it should be tailored to AVs, and test things like "stopping for no reason" rather than ability to parallel park, which it presumably kicks ass at.
It's only fair that they have to meet the same requirements.

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Disagree. As I understand it, one of the more dangerous situations on roads is when the variance in speed is high. If you're on an interstate with an unreasonably low speed limit of 55 mph but everyone around you is going 75 mph, it's actually more dangerous to drive 55 than it is to go 75. AVs need to realize this too and not stubbornly refuse to go even one mph above the speed limit.
Are you advocating they break the law? Who pays the ticket or goes to jail for that?
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Maybe having AVs would finally force the state governments to set speed limits that match reality. Having laws that must be broken for safe operation is a massive failure of governance.
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Maybe having AVs would finally force the state governments to set speed limits that match reality. Having laws that must be broken for safe operation is a massive failure of governance.
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Ford begins to plan testing in Washington DC beginning 2019:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...3f0_story.html

Awhile back Honda had joined GM to use its self driving tech. This was news because initially Honda was in talks with partnering with Google, but that fell through. Waymo will eventually need a way to produce cars at scale.
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Ford begins to plan testing in Washington DC beginning 2019:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...3f0_story.html

Awhile back Honda had joined GM to use its self driving tech. This was news because initially Honda was in talks with partnering with Google, but that fell through. Waymo will eventually need a way to produce cars at scale.
Waymo has contracts with Pacifica and Jaguar for 80k cars, so they should be covered for a while.

DC sounds like a rough city to learn in. Lots of weird turns, double lane circles, lanes that close depending on the time of day, hyper-aggressive drivers, traffic problems, pedestrians everywhere, crosswalks all over the place, rain and occasional snow.
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NHTSA shuts down 'unlawful' autonomous school bus transporting kids in Florida
The shuttle has been running since the beginning of the school year

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A school in Florida has been using an autonomous electric "school bus" shuttle to transport kids to and from school. Its launch was announced at the beginning of the school year, but we're learning of it now, because the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has just directed the company operating the shuttle to stop.

The shuttle in question is a fully autonomous vehicle made by Transdev North America, called the EZ10 Generation II. According to NHTSA, Transdev's "use of the driverless shuttle to transport school children is unlawful and in violation of the company's temporary importation authorization."

This shuttle could hold a total of 12 passengers and was limited to 8 mph on its school path. Transdev said it was capable of 30 mph once the appropriate infrastructure was in place. There was reportedly a safety operator on board at all times, but that was not enough to make it legal in the eyes of the government.

"Innovation must not come at the risk of public safety," said Heidi King, NHTSA Deputy Administrator. "Using a non-compliant test vehicle to transport children is irresponsible, inappropriate, and in direct violation of the terms of Transdev's approved test project."



A strong response like this is expected from NHTSA, but we question why it took so long for them to notice. In March, NHTSA granted Transdev permission to temporarily test and demonstrate its technology, but not use it as an actual school bus. Fast forward to August 31, and Transdev actually put out a press release saying it was going to use the shuttle to transport students. There was TV coverage, video promotion, even online news stories about this vehicle being used in the school district. Yet, here we are more than a month and a half later, with the NHTSA just now stepping in to stop it.

So with that, operation of the world's first autonomous school bus has come to a halt. Looks like the kids will have to go back to riding along in a seatbelt-less yellow tank of steel for the time being.

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