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Old 08-11-2017, 10:30 AM
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The question is about me self teaching, the family member part just meant that while I self teach (presumably way before I'm anywhere near a job), that there'll be support from people who know what they're doing,in the some way you could ask a tutor or lecturer if I did the uni subject...
Most life actuarial jobs don't involve much programming. Some need more than others, but most actuarial jobs don't do actual coding. Health and P&C may be different; I don't work in those fields, so I can't really say.

The level of coding I've seen needed in life actuarial jobs is easily self-taught. Most of the actuaries I've worked with have learned how to code on their own.

Learning how to code *well*--now that's a different matter. Most actuaries are really bad coders. But you didn't ask about whether you could self-teach how to code well, so YMMV.
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...I was wondering if the level of programming/computer skills needed for a job in the profession could be self taught?
Yes, but most actuaries program very poorly anyway. It's not hard to learn how to write atrocious spaghetti code littered with hard coded values. You'll pick it up in no time.
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Most life actuarial jobs don't involve much programming. Some need more than others, but most actuarial jobs don't do actual coding. Health and P&C may be different; I don't work in those fields, so I can't really say.

The level of coding I've seen needed in life actuarial jobs is easily self-taught. Most of the actuaries I've worked with have learned how to code on their own.

Learning how to code *well*--now that's a different matter. Most actuaries are really bad coders. But you didn't ask about whether you could self-teach how to code well, so YMMV.


Most P&C actuarial jobs don't involve a lot of actual coding either.
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Yes, but most actuaries program very poorly anyway. It's not hard to learn how to write atrocious spaghetti code littered with hard coded values. You'll pick it up in no time.


At least have the decency to define the constants up top.
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If you can study you butt off and pass actuarial exams then teaching yourself to code will not be hard for you.
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Most life actuarial jobs don't involve much programming. Some need more than others, but most actuarial jobs don't do actual coding. Health and P&C may be different; I don't work in those fields, so I can't really say.

The level of coding I've seen needed in life actuarial jobs is easily self-taught. Most of the actuaries I've worked with have learned how to code on their own.

Learning how to code *well*--now that's a different matter. Most actuaries are really bad coders. But you didn't ask about whether you could self-teach how to code well, so YMMV.


You are hired to be an Actuary not a programmer, coding is just a tool. You'll get by on your own.
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Yes, but most actuaries program very poorly anyway. It's not hard to learn how to write atrocious spaghetti code littered with hard coded values. You'll pick it up in no time.
This. You can also teach yourself to program well, but that actually takes some time.
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I took a c++ course in college, and then everything else was pretty much self-taught on the job. They give you a task, you think about how to get it done and then basically google each piece and put it together.
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I can certainly vouch that actuaries are horrendous coders in general.

Even actuaries working for F100 companies can't code well. It gives me a headache debugging their code.
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FWIW, I've only had one (formal) programming class in my life . . . a high school class covering BASIC.

Everything else is self-learned. Even to the point where I taught a university course on programming in PASCAL for math education majors.
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