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Old 06-20-2019, 12:15 PM
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Nobody appreciated my intelligence in consulting. It was just 'oh hey you've got letters, check this thing to make sure all the numbers match up'

Stifling.
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:28 PM
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I kinda thought my intelligence would be appreciated more in insurance, but not so far.

Consulting: Oh, you calculated some amounts? Not what the client wants to see. Let's revisit assumptions and see what we can tweak to make these numbers more reasonable.

Insurance: Oh, you calculated some amounts and built a model and improved the processes and insights into a new line of business? The business won't like it. Let's revisit assumptions and see what we can tweak to make these numbers more reasonable.
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I kinda thought my intelligence would be appreciated more in insurance, but not so far.

Consulting: Oh, you calculated some amounts? Not what the client wants to see. Let's revisit assumptions and see what we can tweak to make these numbers more reasonable.

Insurance: Oh, you calculated some amounts and built a model and improved the processes and insights into a new line of business? The business won't like it. Let's revisit assumptions and see what we can tweak to make these numbers more reasonable.
a key factor is to develop enough cred that you're opinion is taken seriously, so seriously that the business might have to change based on what you have to say, and not what they do or do not like.

things may not move 100% to your position, but that's just how the real world works
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Four years if you're at a big 4.

That's why they call it big 4.
I'll take it if I can retire 4x earlier.
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I'll take it if I can retire 4x earlier.
If only we could fund our 401k's with experience ...
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There are good and bad jobs at consulting shops. There are good and bad jobs at carriers.

The x years at a consultant is worth more years than at a carrier is silly. Depends on what you did at each place. It might be worth a lot more, might be worth a lot less.
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My insight (yes I'm sounding super douchey) is much more valued at a carrier. My employer clients didn't want to do anything to actually save them money, nor could they handle reality in most cases (no, your wellness program only costs money).
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Seems more like you are observing a superiority complex.

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My insight (yes I'm sounding super douchey) is much more valued at a carrier. My employer clients didn't want to do anything to actually save them money, nor could they handle reality in most cases (no, your wellness program only costs money).
Let me guess: your employer clients wanted you to validate their beliefs (in their numbers, their ideas, their projects).
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smart and talented people are in all these camps, and different people flourish in different environments. i enjoyed my time in consulting, was exposed to a wide variety of businesses, approaches, complexity levels, etc. i had a number of regular, recurring clients, but i get much greater satisfaction devoting my efforts to a single entity, so i went back to industry work. i found a great fit where i could settle in, understand the business very well, and directly influence strategy, tactics, operations.
I think I might start my own shop tbh. At least then I can drive my own work/clients. This has been on my mind for a few years.
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