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Old 08-23-2017, 11:13 AM
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I'm not sure a "number" would be useful on written answer exams. How would you know how points were assessed. Sure, it is fairly straightforward on multiple choice, but the advanced exams are always at least in part w.a. type.
I think for one thing it may give a sense of the stability of the pass mark for different sittings.

Can you think of any reason NOT to publish it?
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I think for one thing it may give a sense of the stability of the pass mark for different sittings.

Can you think of any reason NOT to publish it?
A sense of stability is shown in the consistency of pass percentages.

To make a change (i.e., start publishing it) requires a reason. I don't have to give a big justification for what is already being done.

And publishing it will no doubt create a lot of whiny correspondence with people who thought they should have passed. The cost of dealing with this definitely needs to be justified.

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A sense of stability is shown in the consistency of pass percentages.

To make a change (i.e., start publishing it) requires a reason. I don't have to give a big justification for what is already being done.

And publishing it will no doubt create a lot of whiny correspondence with people who thought they should have passed. The cost of dealing with this definitely needs to be justified.

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Effective Pass rates for Group Health Core (US) (from newest to oldest)
38% 39% 46% 43% 44% 50% 46% 49%

I can't speak for other exams, but there is a lack of consistency here.
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A sense of stability is shown in the consistency of pass percentages.

To make a change (i.e., start publishing it) requires a reason. I don't have to give a big justification for what is already being done.

And publishing it will no doubt create a lot of whiny correspondence with people who thought they should have passed. The cost of dealing with this definitely needs to be justified.

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A stable pass percentage could imply that a certain percentage/number of passers is targeted, since the difficulty of exams will likely vary between sittings. However, if the percentage of passers is similar sitting to sitting AND the passing mark is similar sitting to sitting, then that makes sense, but both pieces would need to be provided. Not much for the "whiners" to complain about if there's no change to either consistently. Not having to deal with whiners/questions is a good excuse for anyone to be less transparent about pretty much anything, but questioning isn't necessarily a bad thing. I understand where you are coming from, but am just illustrating an alternative opinion.
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Effective Pass rates for Group Health Core (US) (from newest to oldest)
38% 39% 46% 43% 44% 50% 46% 49%

I can't speak for other exams, but there is a lack of consistency here.
Do you have the number of effective candidates for each of those?

IMO, a pass rate of 44% with a range of +/- 6% seems reasonable, depending on how many exam takers there are. 100? Possible/reasonable. 10,000? Less so.
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Do you have the number of effective candidates for each of those?

IMO, a pass rate of 44% with a range of +/- 6% seems reasonable, depending on how many exam takers there are. 100? Possible/reasonable. 10,000? Less so.
200-300 people sat for them, don't have the effective test takers on hand... sitting over sitting looks stable enough, but the pass rate has been on a decline which is concerning for people taking the exam.

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Because they're published for preliminaries.
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*that are tested via CBT

MLC does not have a pass mark.
No, not even that for CBT. They publish the average pass mark for each sitting. The pass mark for an individual depends on the difficulty of the non-pilot questions that individual faces. They haven't said how much difference between an individual's pass mark and the average pass mark is possible.

Before written answer questions were included, the SOA published the pass mark for MLC. With only one set of questions for everyone, that was the pass mark for the exam.
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Effective Pass rates for Group Health Core (US) (from newest to oldest)
38% 39% 46% 43% 44% 50% 46% 49%

I can't speak for other exams, but there is a lack of consistency here.
pass rates for GHSPC
may 2014: 59.2%
oct 2014: 50.5%
may 2015: 70.8%
oct 2015: 63.2%
may 2016: 73.7%
nov 2016: 50.0%
apr 2017: 52.2%
oct 2017: 53.9%
apr 2018: 49.5%

now that's what i call consistency
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