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View Poll Results: Will self driving autos kill car insurance?
Of course 42 16.60%
Maybe but not for a long time 182 71.94%
I'm a luddite... 29 11.46%
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:17 PM
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The guy who is the current head of Autopilot published this in June.
https://youtu.be/oC7Cw3fu3gU
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:18 PM
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https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/11/ca...mous-vehicles/

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California DMV changes rules to allow testing and use of fully autonomous vehicles

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The California Department of Motor Vehicles is changing its rules to allow companies to test autonomous vehicles without a driver behind the wheel — and to let the public use autonomous vehicles.

The DMV released a revised version of its regulations and has started a 15-day public comment period, ending October 25, 2017.

California law requires the DMV to work on regulations to cover testing and public use of autonomous vehicles, and the regulator said that this is the first step.

“We are excited to take the next step in furthering the development of this potentially life-saving technology in California,” the state’s Transportation Secretary, Brian Kelly, said in a statement.

California’s DMV took pains in its announcement to highlight that it wasn’t trying to overstep the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which has the final say on developing and enforcing compliance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

Rather, the California regulations, are going to require manufacturers to certify that they’ve met federal safety standards before their cars become (driverlessly) street legal.

And manufacturers still have to obey the state traffic laws written for California.

The revised regulations are the result of feedback from automakers, consumer advocates, local governments and insurance companies, the DMV said in a statement. It had previously released regulations on March 10, and this update incorporates the feedback from those various stakeholders into the current version of the rules.

Specific changes include, specifying local notifications on planned driverless testing, developing a template for how to report when a driver has disengaged autonomous modes, and identifying concerns that “would trigger an amended driverless testing or deployment applications to the DMV.”

California has had rules in place for driverless vehicles since 2014. As of now, 42 companies hold permits to test autonomous vehicles on California roads, the DMV said.

Written comments can be submitted to LADRegulations@dmv.ca.gov until October 25, 2017. Current regulations are availble on the California website under the “trending” section at the DMV homepage.

With the new revised regulations, California drives a bit farther down the road for autonomous vehicle testing, but it’s not alone. Singapore has already established zones for autonomous vehicle testing, and other nations are pushing to assume the pole position in the autonomous vehicle race.

Meanwhile, car companies are going to great lengths to see how well drivers can adjust to autonomous, driverless cars on the road. Witness Ford’s epic pranking of everyone by dressing up a driver as a car seat.
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This is pretty interesting. Blameless Automated Vehicles

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news.../19/467968.htm

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Intel Corp. has developed a system it says ensures that self-driving vehicles can’t cause accidents where they are at fault, an effort to reassure a skeptical public and help speed adoption of driverless cars on the road.

The world’s largest chipmaker is publishing a set of standards, based on mathematical formulas, that will govern the behavior of robot cars and trucks. If they’re adopted, Intel argues, it will bring certainty to questions of liability and blame in the event of an accident.

“Any useful autonomous vehicle is going to be involved in accidents,” said Dan Galves a vice president at Mobileye, a maker of autonomous vehicle technology that Intel bought earlier this year. “One thing that is clear is that the public is going to be a lot less forgiving of accidents that are caused by machines.”

Intel is one of several component makers that see the increasing need for computing in vehicles, caused by the move toward autonomy, as a new growth market. While car makers, their suppliers and companies such as Uber Technologies Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Waymo are conducting on-the-road tests, Intel and its rivals need the industry to move beyond trials and into production to get a return on the dollars they’re pouring into research and development.

Intel is trying to come up with a framework that will help prevent the potential chaos of putting machine-driven vehicles and those piloted by unpredictable humans on the road at the same time, a necessary step on the path to a future where steering wheels become obsolete. The company has taken descriptions of behavior and circumstances that were involved in almost all accidents tracked by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and come up with mathematical models to create a measurable “safe state” for autonomous vehicles.

The standards, if endorsed by the automotive industry, its suppliers and regulators, would also be the basis of software in the vehicles that make sure the rules are followed. That would help speed the validation of autonomous technology, something that would benefit Intel’s chip-making business.

To illustrate what Intel has in mind, under the guidelines a robot vehicle would move past parked cars at a speed slow enough to make sure it could stop in time to avoid a pedestrian who suddenly stepped out into the road. That calculation is possible because we know the maximum speed at which a human can move and can model it, according to Intel. Similarly, computers can easily calculate the safe stopping distance to a vehicle in front and make sure the vehicle they’re piloting stays far enough away. If an aggressive human driver cuts in front of the robot car and causes an accident, the standards would clearly show who’s fault it was, even if the machine-driven car rear-ended the other vehicle.

Intel is arguing that the current path that the industry is following won’t work or will take too long. Slow-moving, ultra-cautious vehicles are of limited use and aren’t that safe, because they clog the roads and don’t fit in with the flow of human-piloted traffic. Attempts to prove that self-driving cars are safe by putting them on the road, having them learn from experience and then measuring how few accidents they have compared with driven vehicles is also ineffective, partly because any accident attracts huge amounts of public attention, Intel said.
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Krafcik said the company determined a system that asked drivers to jump in at the sound of an alert was unsafe after seeing videos from inside self-driving cars during tests.

The company decided to focus solely on technology that didn’t require human intervention a couple of days after the napping incident, said Krafcik, who joined as CEO in 2015. It has also since argued against allowing “handoffs” between automated driving systems and people.

The two drive controls provided to passengers in Waymo’s Chrysler Pacifica minivans are buttons for starting a ride and asking the vehicles to pull over at their next chance.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/waymo...g-site-2017-10

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In that area alone, Waymo seems to have a lot of work to do. When asked by reporters how its cars would handle particular situations like obstacles in the road that might block traffic, representatives gave conflicting answers. One even suggested that the cars might not move until an obstruction — a moving van that was double parked, say — were cleared out of the way.

I'm guessing Waymo's engineers have a better answer than that. But they find navigating the non-technical obstacles to our self-driving car future are as difficult as the technical ones.
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I'm not sure how I missed this one earlier in the month.

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https://futurism.com/gm-expert-calls...el-5-autonomy/
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