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Old 07-03-2018, 09:29 PM
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This is wrong on many levels.
Careful, your academia is showing.

The CEO doesn't have time for prose, get to the ****ing point.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:05 PM
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Elequence is not important.

Being concise is.
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This is wrong on many levels.
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Physical violence as acceptable reaction or outdated masculine bravado as a positive quality is definitely not something the country should be moving towards or qualities we want to see in a President.



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You must interact with a very different group of people in government than I do.
I've always been involved, at least when it comes to government work, data analysis that will affect millions of people and requires constant attention to ethics, and would eventually be reported to the media in some way. My guess is that most people in government don't have to deal with that sort of pressure, or they're rather ignorant of public records laws.
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My father, an Emeritus Professor from Johns Hopkins, is a highly decorated author of over thirty books, including one world-best-seller. But he hates books, academia and academic culture--go figure. He's recommended one book to me in our lives--the same book he recommended his students when he taught: The Elements of Style by Strunk and White. Reading it is very........different!

A cursory Google search uncovered the century-old text in all its glory for free: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3713...-h/37134-h.htm

Also, despite the organized garbage I pen on here sometimes, I consider myself to be very strong verbally. When I'm done with FAP IA, I'll read anyone's writing if they want and offer feedback FWIW as long as you don't make me read a play, creative writing, a poem or anything fictional. Or expect me to read more than a few pages
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My father, an Emeritus Professor from Johns Hopkins, is a highly decorated author of over thirty books, including one world-best-seller. But he hates books, academia and academic culture--go figure. He's recommended one book to me in our lives--the same book he recommended his students when he taught: The Elements of Style by Strunk and White. Reading it is very........different!

A cursory Google search uncovered the century-old text in all its glory for free: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3713...-h/37134-h.htm

Also, despite the organized garbage I pen on here sometimes, I consider myself to be very strong verbally. When I'm done with FAP IA, I'll read anyone's writing if they want and offer feedback FWIW as long as you don't make me read a play, creative writing, a poem or anything fictional. Or expect me to read more than a few pages
At our business unit's Christmas party our corporate secretary gave everyone their own Strunk & White.
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Concision may confuse people if too concise. People may need additional context.
That's not really what we mean.


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Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. This requires not that the writer make all his sentences short, or that he avoid all detail and treat his subjects only in outline, but that he make every word tell.
You may be more familiar with the term "chartjunk".
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Fwiw, the most common issue I run into is lack of completeness. For some reason nobody likes to layout exactly what the hell they are thinking via email.

You have to go back and forth ten times to tease out the why's and when's and follow-ups. Or else schedule a stupid meeting just to explain that Sheet1!C:22 should be a sumif.
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