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P 66 4.93%
FM 19 1.42%
MLC 349 26.04%
MFE 240 17.91%
C 622 46.42%
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:44 PM
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When I took the prelims, M was the hardest. This was before the loss models was moved to C.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:51 PM
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From easiest to hardest:
FM - I took the 2 hour 25 question pre-derivative format
MFE - I took the 2nd offering of this
P - Current form
C - Current form
MLC - Current form

To give them a degree of difficulty, with more <'s meaning greater difference in difficulty
FM<<MFE<<<<P<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<C<MLC
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After going through both MFE and MLC material I would say MFE is more difficult. Sure MLC is longer but the material is much easier to master. MFE seems to be underestimated and underappreciated by everyone but the SOA. My job gives 5 days for mfe and 13 days for FM. Seriously, wtf? Meanwhile, the SOA is busy dreaming up new undoable problems for mfe. The soa should just officially make MFE a separte exam instead of having it parade as the ugly step sister of MLC when they have nothing in common.
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After going through both MFE and MLC material I would say MFE is more difficult. Sure MLC is longer but the material is much easier to master. MFE seems to be underestimated and underappreciated by everyone but the SOA. My job gives 5 days for mfe and 13 days for FM. Seriously, wtf? Meanwhile, the SOA is busy dreaming up new undoable problems for mfe. The soa should just officially make MFE a separte exam instead of having it parade as the ugly step sister of MLC when they have nothing in common.
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If you were just looking at the syllabus for MFE and MLC and had not taken both exams or if you happen to have been lucky and you took the Spring 2007 MFE exam, you probably would think MLC would be much harder than MFE. However, I found the actual MFE test to be much harder than MLC. I took both exams in Fall 2007 and thought I would pass MFE and fail MLC--the exact opposite happened. The MFE exam I took this last sitting was the most difficult exam that I've taken.
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i was amazed at the P and the MFE votes. I mean really it has to be MLC or C right?

BTW for all you ancient folk, back when it was just exam M that was clearly the hardest right?
Not at all. I haven't seen MLC or MFE but there was probably just less material on it. The topics were hard but somehow much easier than exam 4 (C now).
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Remember the Course 2 sitting that had a 25% passrate in May of 2004?
I got a 2 on that sitting.
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P<<FM<<<<<MLC<<<<<<C

Still MFE to do.
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I think the reasons that MFE is the toughest are:

a) The fact that there are no example problems to go off of, therefore you have no idea what to study.

b) There is no study guide that is dialed in yet because every exam has been completely different from the prior. So when a study guide dials in Brownian Motion and Ito's Lemma and everyone focuses on those topics, there are only 2 questions on the next sitting and the SOA takes a different topic to focus on.

c) When the SOA makes the questions for the exams they will pull some of the most abstact ideas out and then twist them around. The questions are far harder than the few sample problems that are provided by the SOA. This gives you even more of a false sense of security.
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I think the reasons that MFE is the toughest are:

a) The fact that there are no example problems to go off of, therefore you have no idea what to study.

b) There is no study guide that is dialed in yet because every exam has been completely different from the prior. So when a study guide dials in Brownian Motion and Ito's Lemma and everyone focuses on those topics, there are only 2 questions on the next sitting and the SOA takes a different topic to focus on.

c) When the SOA makes the questions for the exams they will pull some of the most abstact ideas out and then twist them around. The questions are far harder than the few sample problems that are provided by the SOA. This gives you even more of a false sense of security.
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