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They may say she died of a burst ventricle, but I know she died of a broken heart.
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guys, this r srs thread.

take your hilarity to NAT, where it will be better appreciated
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Both serious, I think, even with a bit of a wry smile, as these were research pieces related to mortality:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...p-pc052814.php

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Centenarians are more likely to die of pneumonia and frailty or "old age" and less likely to die of the chronic conditions often associated with old age...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5359253.html

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Recent studies in Denmark and the United States have shown that mothers of children who have died face a much higher risk of dying themselves in the years immediately following the child’s death. In the United States, in the two years following the death of a child, the odds of the mother dying increased to more than three times those of mothers whose children survived. After two years, the difference narrowed, but it was still 22 percent higher for grieving mothers. A similar trend has been found among those who lose their spouses; several studies of men and women in the year or so following the death of a spouse show higher than expected death rates, with much of the increase due to heart disease.
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Thanks for the links. I had seen something from Munich Re on frailty as an underwriting variable (getting into specifics... I think it was on LifeHealthPro, just a bit....hmmm, can't find it)

Anyway, there have been lots more life insurance policies being issued at older ages, so specialty underwriting is likely called for there
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Well, this is pleasant.

http://theweek.com/article/index/257...ing-themselves

...and then watch the murder rate go up.
For all we know in the poorer areas the murder rates are higher but unreported.
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Has anyone seen a study (or article about a study) that looks at historical suicide rates not just by a broad industry label (i.e. "white collar" or "lawyer") but by workplace conditions? In other words, a study looking for a connection between workplace environment/culture and suicide?

Even more specific, ignoring job title and industry, which types of offices have the highest suicide rates? Factors like: urban vs. rural geographic location, sky scraper vs. small building, rented vs. owned space, cubicles vs. private offices, and so on. Considering that the defining characteristic about most white collar work is that you spend the majority of your time at work, I think it would be interesting.
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Has anyone seen a study (or article about a study) that looks at historical suicide rates not just by a broad industry label (i.e. "white collar" or "lawyer") but by workplace conditions? In other words, a study looking for a connection between workplace environment/culture and suicide?

Even more specific, ignoring job title and industry, which types of offices have the highest suicide rates? Factors like: urban vs. rural geographic location, sky scraper vs. small building, rented vs. owned space, cubicles vs. private offices, and so on. Considering that the defining characteristic about most white collar work is that you spend the majority of your time at work, I think it would be interesting.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-pi...ommit-suicide/

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Suicides are more likely to happen after midnight, a finding that suggests the people who suffer from nightmares and insomnia could be at risk, according to a new study.

Researchers determined that the suicide rate per hour rose to 10.27 percent after midnight. It peaked at 16.27 percent between 2 and 3 a.m., and then dropped to 2.13 percent between 6 a.m. and midnight, reports CBS Atlanta.

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The researchers obtained the estimated times of the suicides from the National Violent Death Reporting System, and an hourly proportion of the American population that is awake. Researchers analyzed more 35,000 suicides, put them into one-hour bins, and then compared the suicides to the proportion of people awake at each hour.

Previous research, which suggested that more suicides happen during the day, did not account for the proportion of the population that is awake during the night, the study's authors said.

I don't know about that.

Anyway, data can be found here:
http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/nvdrs.html
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and I just tried querying. It's kind of ugly. And it has only particular states in there.
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Life insurance sounds really fun, from this thread. I spent years reading about clues to longevity, though I could not prove anything.
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Life insurance sounds really fun, from this thread. I spent years reading about clues to longevity, though I could not prove anything.
Well, actuaries do have fairly low suicide rates as a profession. So there's that.
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