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Old 07-03-2018, 06:29 PM
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Default Asked a coworker with the same position and under the same team as me their salary

First I need to ask, is it true that talking about salary among coworkers is protected by federal law, and the employer cannot have a policy against that nor can they fire you for it?



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Old 07-03-2018, 06:35 PM
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If you didn’t sign a contract saying you can’t, it’s fine. Also, IANAL.
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If you didnít sign a contract saying you canít, itís fine. Also, IANAL.
I think I signed some Non solicitation agreement, or whatever. And of course, I read like the first page.
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I think I signed some Non solicitation agreement, or whatever. And of course, I read like the first page.
No idea if that would have any relevance. Good luck. Try and find the rest of the pages.
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First I need to ask, is it true that talking about salary among coworkers is protected by federal law, and the employer cannot have a policy against that nor can they fire you for it?



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there is no issue I am aware of, though I think it is a stupid thing to do.
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No idea if that would have any relevance. Good luck. Try and find the rest of the pages.
https://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/30198...-misunderstood

I think the law is called the National Labor Relations Act, enacted in 1935.

I also word scanned the NSA document that I signed. No mention of the word "salary".
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i'm guessing it's fine, but I have no idea.

I never do it though. i'm not sure I want to know unless i'm planning to do something about it.
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once enough people confirms the above statement.
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First I need to ask, is it true that talking about salary among coworkers is protected by federal law, and the employer cannot have a policy against that nor can they fire you for it?...
In general, yes. There are a number of exceptions, including supervisory roles, government employees, and independent contractors. Or if the co-worker works in say payroll or HR and is disclosing a third person's salary.

But you can't necessarily do it in working hours, if your employer bans general office chat in those hours.
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there is no issue I am aware of, though I think it is a stupid thing to do.

If anyone had ever asked me, I would have politely declined to answer. And wondered why the person thought it was any of their business.
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