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Old 01-15-2020, 12:41 PM
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I like when Luke called out the play the offense was getting ready to run. So the QB audibles and Luke called out the audible.
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This. Luke was probably the best to ever play MLB...
Not even close.

But people like to over appreciate his accomplishments, so he has an undeserved legacy.

He was great
Deserves to be in the HOF

No way in hell does he deserve to be a first ballot hall of famer.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:52 PM
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And the first ever hispanic head coach not named Tom! (Neither of which I would have even suspected were hispanic based on their names )


I grew up with a Flores family in the neighborhood, so I always knew that he was Hispanic.
Also he was the Seahawks GM and then coach when I was young, so that might have influenced my knowledge too.
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I think yes.
Probably first ballot.
But I also find myself a bit bias against him, since he seemed to get way more praise and accolades than Bobby Wagner.

I think they both should be first ballot, but I think only Kuechly will be.
uhhhh, maybe because he's significantly better than Wagner
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In terms of longevity . . . should Terrell Davis be there with only 7 seasons of longevity?
he really only had 4 good years, but 3 of those seasons (in a row) were arguably top 10 seasons all time for his position. definitely the best 3 year stretch. i'd say he deserves HOF
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uhhhh, maybe because he's significantly better than Wagner
That's a overstatement, statistically they are nearly identical.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...K/KuecLu00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...W/WagnBo00.htm
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much better leader, plus the defensive QBing he did that GA mentioned
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Not even close.

But people like to over appreciate his accomplishments, so he has an undeserved legacy.

He was great
Deserves to be in the HOF

No way in hell does he deserve to be a first ballot hall of famer.
Always found this argument to be silly. Deserves to be in, but not first ballot. Weird.
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Always found this argument to be silly. Deserves to be in, but not first ballot. Weird.

First ballot tends to be the best of the best.

Maybe I am wrong about that.
But I thought that was the case with both the NFL & MLB Hall of Fame selection process.
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