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Old 10-22-2009, 07:07 PM
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The academy, in an email it sent the other day, gave a fax number for proxies supporting Tom. Is that an academy number, one of yours, or just wrong? Thanks and good luck.
The Academy kindly published an email address and a fax number for third party proxies (presumably naming me or someone other than Steve Lehmann as proxy). However, emailing or faxing those directly to the Academy without letting your proxy know may not be effective.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:13 PM
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Again, if you haven't received an email from me acknowledging receipt of proxy, that means I haven't gotten it [excepting the people who sent me several in one file - very convenient, that - thanks! - I just emailed the contact person on that.]
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:43 AM
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That was a recommendation of the Governance Task Force a year ago. It was discussed at three consecutive AAA Board meetings before being formally approved. . . .
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There was then plenty of time to submit the bylaws change to the membership. I guess they were distracted by other stuff.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:48 AM
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:14 AM
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I currently have 57 proxies, and will be sending those to the Academy in a few minutes.

I will keep taking proxies up til Saturday afternoon, just wanted to send off my first batch.
I have submitted 18 proxies. (I counted wrong in the last post.) Thanks, everyone.

If anyone sent me a proxy and did NOT get a thank you reply from me, please send it again. Thanks.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:22 AM
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There was then plenty of time to submit the bylaws change to the membership. I guess they were distracted by other stuff.
Yes, there was plenty of time. In fact, the change could have been submitted to the members at the same time as last year's other Bylaws changes (like eliminating the 3-year experience requirement for AAA membership). Frankly, nobody really thought about the significance of eliminating a member-elected director position (a suggestion made by Larry Bruning and immediately accepted). Someone should have pointed it out then, but nobody did (including me). Maybe that's because the members' right to elect some directors had no significance in the AAA's 44-year history until now. Anyway, whatever errors of omission may have been made in the past, as soon as they were pointed out -- thank you, Tom Bakos! -- they should have been corrected. It may happen yet at Monday's annual meeting.

The very best way to restore members' confidence in AAA leadership is to allow the members to elect those leaders. That requires a change in the Bylaws, obviously. Roughly 500 members can put the necessary changes on the ballot by signing a petition. For more information, please see:

www.bakosenterprises.com/Bylaws

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Old 10-23-2009, 10:55 PM
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The very best way to restore members' confidence in AAA leadership is to allow the members to elect those leaders. That requires a change in the Bylaws, obviously. Roughly 500 members can put the necessary changes on the ballot by signing a petition. For more information, please see:

www.bakosenterprises.com/Bylaws

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Petition signatures are coming in and I expect we will be to 500+ quickly.

I (and others) will have petition forms at the Academy Annual meeting on Monday, 10/26/09, (and throughout the SOA meeting) ready for your signature (or email them to me).

I am convinced, as Bruce noted above, that the very best way to restore membership confidence in the Academy leadership is to let the members vote them into office. It may not be perfect but, at least, then if the membership finds a problem with their own elected leadership they will have no one to blame but themselves and they will be more careful in the future.

The way it is now, there seems to be nothing the membership can do to get the leadership to be open, responsive, or accountable to the members!
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:50 PM
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Petition signatures are coming in and I expect we will be to 500+ quickly.

I (and others) will have petition forms at the Academy Annual meeting on Monday, 10/26/09, (and throughout the SOA meeting) ready for your signature (or email them to me).

I am convinced, as Bruce noted above, that the very best way to restore membership confidence in the Academy leadership is to let the members vote them into office. It may not be perfect but, at least, then if the membership finds a problem with their own elected leadership they will have no one to blame but themselves and they will be more careful in the future.

The way it is now, there seems to be nothing the membership can do to get the leadership to be open, responsive, or accountable to the members!
Amen! Go for it, Tom!
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