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Old 03-11-2013, 08:32 AM
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I am interested as to what the reply will be.
Either nothing, or after manning meets with josephson, a memo on how the soa listened to the cas, but determined that the GI route best promotes its strategic aims.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:36 AM
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Either nothing, or after manning meets with josephson, a memo on how the soa listened to the cas, but determined that the GI route best promotes its strategic aims.
That would be my expectation as well.

The SOA insiders have shown they don't feel the need to conciliate the CAS at all.
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It is a Board backed statement. I watched the board draft it and I wll attest that it is a statement of the CAS Board and not the action of an individual. It is past your bedtime Ke$ha.
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Please outline SOA's intentions.

1) to be a local only American society of actuaries, where the primary "international" activity is mutual recognition
2) a global provider of education that is "competing" with other organizations in different countries

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Old 03-11-2013, 10:13 AM
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Arlie,

Please outline SOA's intentions.

1) to be a local only American society of actuaries, where the primary "international" activity is mutual recognition
2) a global provider of education that is "competing" with other organizations in different countries

Thanks,
Ke$ha
Your post does not make sense. Are you doing the outlining for Arlie? Or is this a multiple choice test and Arile is supposed to choose one (and, thus, not really "outlining" anything)?

It's probably the latter, as 2 clearly contradicts 1...
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:21 AM
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How will the SOA know that the letter is legit? Does Gary Josephson have an SOA member number?
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:24 AM
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Arlie,

Please outline SOA's intentions.

1) to be a local only American society of actuaries, where the primary "international" activity is mutual recognition
2) a global provider of education that is "competing" with other organizations in different countries

Thanks,
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Arlie,

I appreciate your statements about CAS Board actions you watched. I am curious as to why Ke$ha expects you have inside information about the SOA's intentions. Is Ke$ha's malfunctioning again?
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:25 AM
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It is a Board backed statement. I watched the board draft it and I wll attest that it is a statement of the CAS Board and not the action of an individual.
Good for the CAS Board! Personally and professionally I've never regretted giving someone an honorable means of backing out of a dumb decision or course of action. And when FSA-GI fails, we can return to a collaborative relationship with SOA.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:46 AM
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Good for the CAS Board! Personally and professionally I've never regretted giving someone an honorable means of backing out of a dumb decision or course of action. And when FSA-GI fails, we can return to a collaborative relationship with SOA.
That would be very nice.

I don't think the CAS Board should count on SOA failure (though it is a distinct possibility).

For all that Ke$ha sounds like a rabid dog re: the IAA, it is pretty clear that those in SOA leadership, and those allowed to get there, are shooting for there being one and only one actuarial org in the U.S. They have stated it explicitly. This is not a secret.

Many SOA members actually like this idea. Do not assume that this move is necessarily looked unfavorably at by the SOA membership. I may not like it, but I do not mistake my own preferences for majority opinion.

I'm just saying that hoping the SOA fails in this endeavor is not much of a strategic plan.
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SOA has ZERO international aspirations.


Ke$ha is like France guarding the Maginot Line while millions of Germans are pouring through Belgium.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:55 AM
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Many SOA members actually like this idea. Do not assume that this move is necessarily looked unfavorably at by the SOA membership. I may not like it, but I do not mistake my own preferences for majority opinion.
Many SOA members don't care at all, since nothing that happens in the general insurance sphere affects them in any way.
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