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Old 12-07-2006, 06:18 PM
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so an FSA would want to model the future risk of possible decline in interest rates, whereas a CFA is out there trying to prevent a declining interest rate from occuring??
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/natural Pick one...
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How was anyone to know they were natural until the first one occured? I also want to know how this applies to FSA vs CFA?
Look at actindia's signature. I think he is the 14 the post on page one of this thread, if I counted correctly.
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which would come more naturally: the CFA or the FSA?
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Nope. I don't wanna take this (irrelevant?) discussion any further but, I will make my point.
Can I get an executive summary/Cliff's Notes?
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which would come more naturally: the CFA or the FSA?
From what I've seen of the info tested on CFA1, the CFA is easier wrt exams, but you have to have the work experience to boot. OTOH, for most people who want a CFA, the work experience is a given. I vote CFA.
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which would come more naturally: the CFA or the FSA?
From what I've seen of the info tested on CFA1, the CFA is easier wrt exams, but you have to have the work experience to boot. OTOH, for most people who want a CFA, the work experience is a given. I vote CFA.
I can see this. My work experience has no bearing on how good i do on exams. My exam experience also has small impact on work performance. Right now only only benfit I get from exam experience (besides money) is the way i think about certain data analysis. CFA exams, I guess, are more directly related to work the candidates see every day.

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Old 12-09-2006, 02:06 PM
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When looking at the differences between CFA and FSA/FCAS I think one must understand that the CFA isn't really defining the career and requiring a certain salary like a FSA/FCAS. Alot of these top earning CFA's have come from very good schools, have done much more than pass a couple exams, they probably would be worth close to what they are even without the CFA. A CFA isn't going to define your career and isn't going to get you a good salary on its own as much as FSA/FCAS can. With 76% passing level 3 last time, there is going to be a TON of donkey CFA running around, just because you can pass an exam, that doesn't create a job opportunity.

And the average Fellow does not make 82k, this is obviously a troll who started this board. The average fellow STARTS higher than that regardless of location.
Well put, GosuJohn. Newly qualified FSA/FCIA does not make 82K, they start at 82K; at my company, ASAs make about 75-85K and FSA starts from 90 to 100K +

With the 90% passing rate for SOA FAP Exam 1, will we have tone of donkey ASA running around? :P
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