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Old 06-04-2019, 05:50 PM
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It seems unlikely you have anything better than a tie. I think itís probably still a call though. Have to think about it some more.
Gotten this exact reaction from the 4 guys I run hands through.
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If am the first in the pot from any position, am coming in with a raise. If someone limps before, then once in a while will limp behind with a pocket pair.
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What were you thinking about in the tank?
Bets 50% of pot on the flop.
THEN bets 27% of the turn?
THEN bets 80% on the river?


Not sure what this betting pattern represents. There are betting pattern experts out there to help. One thing to wonder is, "what would I have such that I'd bet like that?" You are not Villain, so what you'd do might not apply to him. Especially a $20 pre-flop bet, though on the button. Has he been raising the button and have you seen what he had when doing so? Sure, it fluffs the pot a bit, drops some drawing hands and ATC limpers.
I didn't have a ton of history with him, just what I mentioned in OP.

My thoughts in the moment were that I didn't think it was obvious that he'd open hands like 66/65/75 after a few limpers, so I thought his value range was capped at 77/99. This was the overriding factor in the close decision. Wish I'd had more time with him so I could have made a better read on this part of the hand.

Unfortunately, there aren't many sensical bluffs either. Thought there was a small chance he was steam-barreling a hand like T9, maybe turned a flush draw with it. Perhaps turning a hand like TT/JJ into a bluff. Maybe A5 looking to project a bluff and get a call from an overpair (which I'll have in this spot a fair amount). Nothing that jumps out as a no-brainer for a bet that big, but at least seemed plausible.

Thinking back, I feel like big bets on the river are always "he's got it" in live poker. And his sizings make perfect sense for a turned boat. I don't love the call in light of all this, but for the most part my other guys think it's OK.

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For this hand, two more questions are, could I ever win (yes, a large pre-flop bet, but that's risky with 88), and could I ever get away (maybe on the river, but only after making a fantastic read)?

I think it is near impossible. Just one of those hands where he got lucky and took advantage.
I hope you got some of that back later.
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