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Bad news for dreamers: Waymo is putting safety drivers back into their cars.

Dreamy news for drunks: Cops arrest a man for a DUI while sleeping at the wheel of a Tesla going 70 mph on the highway.
But...but...they met the deadline to have a commercial ride-hailing service! *

https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-se...ndler-arizona/


* [to be read in a fast, low voice like end of pharma ad] Waymo vehicle still includes a safety driver behind the wheel; Waymo vehicle still not accepting riders not already in their pre-selected group; Waymo vehicle is still contained in a small footprint in the suburbs
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I don't think fully autonomous cars are going to be on the road by 2025.
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12/3/2018 ftw
Another prediction missed...
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Did we talk about this missed prediction back in February when it failed to happen?
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some here don't appear to know how stuff like this works. so let me illustrate:

1. Create self-driving vehicle
2. Test, with human backup
3. Go live
4. Profit

So far 1 and 2 are checked off from the list. And at the rate we're going, we'll hit number 3 in probably a year and a half.
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I'll put that on MY calendar.
End of Feb., 2018. Car (not truck) with no human required as "backup" driver. On public roads in at least 20 states. (That's not even a majority of states.)
I say it doesn't happen.

And as for headlines about driverless cars that don't meet the criteria:
(There was some later discussion about "why not a truck" but I don't think the distinction matters as neither happened.)
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Another prediction missed...
There will be many more failed predictions.

I do wonder, is this really commercial? Do those families who were riding for free now have to pay, and if so, will they want to?
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There will be many more failed predictions.

I do wonder, is this really commercial? Do those families who were riding for free now have to pay, and if so, will they want to?
Yes, supposedly, they're charging them Uber rates. I don't see why it matters. I mean, I guess it's interesting if they lose their test-rats customers... but to your larger question, is it "commercial" if you're paying the safety drivers more than you would actual drivers?
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Yes, supposedly, they're charging them Uber rates. I don't see why it matters. I mean, I guess it's interesting if they lose their test-rats customers... but to your larger question, is it "commercial" if you're paying the safety drivers more than you would actual drivers?
Something can be commercial and a money-loser at the same time. The drivers' rate of pay doesn't matter to me.

The presence or absence of a "safety driver" or whatever they want to call him/her matters a great deal though!
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Something can be commercial and a money-loser at the same time. The drivers' rate of pay doesn't matter to me.

The presence or absence of a "safety driver" or whatever they want to call him/her matters a great deal though!
Fully agree with this.
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Last week both Lyft and Uber field with the SEC to go public. It will be interesting to see what the public thinks and how much Autonomous Vehicles may play a part in the share price.
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