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View Poll Results: Total Travel, Calculus to FSA/FCAS
16+ years 29 31.87%
14-15 years 7 7.69%
13 years 2 2.20%
12 years 5 5.49%
11 years 3 3.30%
10 years 5 5.49%
9 years 6 6.59%
8 years 4 4.40%
7 years 0 0%
6 years 5 5.49%
5 years 2 2.20%
4 years 2 2.20%
3 years or less 1 1.10%
42 weeks or I wanna see the numbers 20 21.98%
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Nevertheless your measure is still not very meaningful. Why did you choose calculus? Most everyone either takes it in high school or as an undergraduate in college, so you might as well say age at Fellowship minus 18. Why not say "first exposure to mathematics" instead? After all, your reasoning for calculus being the "earliest prep that might have led directly to FSA/FCAS" is a bit strange, since indeed the technically correct answer would be the first exposure to mathematics.
Not everyone has the educational experiences you have. My high school did not offer calculus and my first exposure to calculus was not until I was 20.
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Not everyone has the educational experiences you have. My high school did not offer calculus and my first exposure to calculus was not until I was 20.
Which only supports my point that such a measure is relatively meaningless.
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Which only supports my point that such a measure is relatively meaningless.
Got it.
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Which only supports my point that such a measure is relatively meaningless.
Indeed. No calculus in my high school either, but I taught it to myself from library books at age 15. Got my FSA at age 44. No, that isn't meaningful except, perhaps, that my journey had some fast and slow points, ups and downs.

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The survey is just to generate interest among the number-hungry.
I assumed it was just to make those of us who like to vote in polls happy
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Indeed. No calculus in my high school either, but I taught it to myself from library books at age 15. Got my FSA at age 44. No, that isn't meaningful except, perhaps, that my journey had some fast and slow points, ups and downs.

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I assumed it was just to make those of us who like to vote in polls happy
That's why there are so many different boxes.

Sorry I couldn't let you check multiples -- but you could always do it under a different pseud.

In comparison, how long after starting calculus until the average engineering consultant is "qualified"?
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The poll also ignores the fact that for a lot of us becoming an actuary was very much an afterthought.

In my case I did a Ph.D. and my first job out of grad school was as a math prof, not as an actuary. As a result I didn't start writing actuarial exams until about 11 years after my first calculus course (I did get credit for the old Part 1 as a result of writing the GRE in advanced math but I don't really count that).

As a result I ticked off 16+ but the answer would be very different if I excluded the years I was doing "something else".
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The poll also ignores the fact that for a lot of us becoming an actuary was very much an afterthought.
That's why "travel time" is such an elusive stat. Bruce Schobel's estimate of "about 10 years" is both easy and hard to defend. Substituting facts for appearances is difficult when the base assumptions are so variable.
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