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Old 06-19-2019, 01:50 PM
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It's not 7 years of total control. At the end of year 4, the player can leave if his team doesn't match the best offer he gets from another NBA team.
Isn't there more to that? Like the acquiring team losing a draft pick or something? Or, his team matching the offer then trading him to yet another team that he doesn't want to play for? Some place that he'd be willing to play, if he were paid more (like Cleveland or Detroit)?
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It's not 7 years of total control. At the end of year 4, the player can leave if his team doesn't match the best offer he gets from another NBA team.
But every team will always match that offer for any really good player, leaving that player the option of playing one more year under the rookie scale and then becoming unrestricted, or what most players end up doing which is locking in their first real huge payday by signing an extension with the team that drafted them.
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Trading and salary-matching do constrain the player's choice of location, but after year 4 they're not constraining the salary to below what the rest of the league is willing to pay.
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It's not 7 years of total control. At the end of year 4, the player can leave if his team doesn't match the best offer he gets from another NBA team.
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Trading and salary-matching do constrain the player's choice of location, but after year 4 they're not constraining the salary to below what the rest of the league is willing to pay.
But aren't teams restricted in what they CAN offer a restricted free agent? I mean, they can't offer them a super max contract. The original team only has to offer a "qualifying" bid to have the first right of refusal but I thought other teams were still limited to what they could offer a restricted free agent on a rookie contract.
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But aren't teams restricted in what they CAN offer a restricted free agent? I mean, they can't offer them a super max contract. The original team only has to offer a "qualifying" bid to have the first right of refusal but I thought other teams were still limited to what they could offer a restricted free agent on a rookie contract.
A player coming off his rookie deal can get paid 25% of the cap, unless they've made an All-NBA team in which they can get 30%, but only by the team that drafted them.

Once they reach seven years of experience, those percentages each go up by 5%. The max is 30% and the super-max is 35%.
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unless they've made an All-NBA team in which they can get 30%, but only by the team that drafted them.
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Memphis is officially in full tank mode. I like this for the Jazz, it doesn't seem like they are giving up too much and it will be really nice for them to have another scoring option. Now seems like the time for them to go for it and even if it doesn't work out, they aren't giving up too much.
Zach Lowe appears to be a big fan in favor of Jazz. Plus Memhis can flip Crowder for young assets picks.

Memphis tanking better be fast as their pick belongs to the Cs.
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Memphis tanking better be fast as their pick belongs to the Cs.
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Now, Atlanta "has" the #4 pick.
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New Orleans reportedly dealt the pick to the Hawks in exchange for the No. 8, No. 17 and No. 35 picks on Thursday night. The Hawks also took back the contract of Solomon Hill in the deal.
I think Hawks sold 2 other 2nd round picks one to GSW and one to Miami or Orlando I think.

couple other trades today as well
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...-from-atlanta/
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