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View Poll Results: Who gets into the MLB HOF this year?
Derek Jeter 19 90.48%
Alfonso Soriano 1 4.76%
Cliff Lee 0 0%
Josh Beckett 1 4.76%
Jason Giambi 0 0%
Paul Konerko 0 0%
Rafael Furcal 0 0%
Bobby Abreu 1 4.76%
Andruw Jones 1 4.76%
Barry Bonds 3 14.29%
Roger Clemens 1 4.76%
Adam Dunn 1 4.76%
Todd Helton 0 0%
Jeff Kent 0 0%
Brad Penny 0 0%
Andy Pettitte 0 0%
Manny Ramirez 3 14.29%
Scott Rolen 1 4.76%
Curt Schilling 5 23.81%
Gary Sheffield 1 4.76%
Sammy Sosa 1 4.76%
Omar Vizquel 2 9.52%
Billy Wagner 1 4.76%
Larry Walker 4 19.05%
Heath Bell 0 0%
Nobody gets in this year 0 0%
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Who do you think gets in and why?
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Marvin Miller because the Hall is useless without him in it.
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And since Feif was too lazy to include who is eligible here is a link

https://www.baseball-reference.com/a...hof_2020.shtml
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Vets committee puts in Whitker

BBWAA vote in Jeter and no one else.

Bond and Clemens both make it next year in final year of ballot eligibility.
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And since Feif was too lazy to include who is eligible here is a link

https://www.baseball-reference.com/a...hof_2020.shtml
I was adding a poll. It takes time to put in that many options.
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Jeter, though at 14th for OPS+. Gets in on his fielding no doubt.
Five cheaters in the top ten of OPS+.
Not much else to take a swing at.


Jose Valverde's OPS+ really sticks out.
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Jeter, though at 14th for OPS+. Gets in on his fielding no doubt.
Five cheaters in the top ten of OPS+.
Not much else to take a swing at.


Jose Valverde's OPS+ really sticks out.
Jeter gets in on 3000+ hits and no taint of steroid whether he was actually clean or not. As for fielding do voters give him credit for the gold gloves or ding him for advanced fielding metrics that rate him poorly.

But whatever you think of him, seems a career .310 hitter who played his whole career at SS, won 5 WS titles is likely to be a 1st ballot hall of famer unless he's got needle sticking out of his ass somewhere.
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One guy I doubt gets in but is worthy of more consideration is Andruw Jones. I concede that his offensive numbers are borderline, most likely putting him just short. 400+HR normally gets you in, but a .254 average generally does not. His defense though was pretty spectacular, which has been enough in the past to put some relatively average offensive players in the HOF. Andruw is 22nd all time in defensive WAR, led NL 4 years in defensive WAR, was top 10 dWAR for a good while, with 10 gold gloves. He's 2nd all time in Total Zone Runs, first among all OF.

His D was good enough that among the candidates on the current ballot only Clemens and Bonds have a higher WAR7 than Andruw.
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Vets committee puts in Whitker

BBWAA vote in Jeter and no one else.

Bond and Clemens both make it next year in final year of ballot eligibility.
Can't argue with any of this.
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One guy I doubt gets in but is worthy of more consideration is Andruw Jones. I concede that his offensive numbers are borderline, most likely putting him just short. 400+HR normally gets you in, but a .254 average generally does not. His defense though was pretty spectacular, which has been enough in the past to put some relatively average offensive players in the HOF. Andruw is 22nd all time in defensive WAR, led NL 4 years in defensive WAR, was top 10 dWAR for a good while, with 10 gold gloves. He's 2nd all time in Total Zone Runs, first among all OF.

His D was good enough that among the candidates on the current ballot only Clemens and Bonds have a higher WAR7 than Andruw.
I agree, but my question on the poll was who gets in this year. I think he ends up getting in later on.
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