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 View Poll Results: How many genders are there? 2 31 75.61% 2-50 3 7.32% >50 2 4.88% 42 5 12.20% Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

#21
12-06-2017, 09:42 PM
 tempodust123 Member CAS Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,508

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

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 n his studies of hermaphrodites, Money found that there are six variables that define sex. While in the average person all six would line up unequivocally as either all "male" or "female", in hermaphrodites any one or more than one of these could be inconsistent with the others, leading to various kinds of anomalies. In his seminal 1955 paper he defined these factors as:[12] assigned sex and sex of rearing external genital morphology internal reproductive structures hormonal and secondary sex characteristics gonadal sex chromosomal sex and added, "Patients showing various combinations and permutations of these six sexual variables may be appraised with respect to a seventh variable: 7. Gender role and orientation as male or female, established while growing up."[12] He then defined gender role as "all those things that a person says or does to disclose himself or herself as having the status of boy or man, girl or woman, respectively. It includes, but is not restricted to sexuality in the sense of eroticism. Gender role is appraised in relation to the following: general mannerisms, deportment and demeanor; play preferences and recreational interests; spontaneous topics of talk in unprompted conversation and casual comment; content of dreams, daydreams and fantasies; replies to oblique inquiries and projective tests; evidence of erotic practices, and, finally, the person's own replies to direct inquiry."[12]
#22
12-07-2017, 12:13 AM
 Loner Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Third Half Posts: 45,854

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 Originally Posted by mathmajor As an LGBT man this has bothered me. 1. Gender is a construct of society. 2. I am (genderfluid/non-binary/etc). How do the two coexist? I don't deny gender is a vague, arbitrary societal thing. So why give yourself a special name saying you're "in-between" two goalposts or whatever? You're recognizing the goalposts and gender being a linear spectrum of some kind.
Yeah, I feel like they are using gender in a different sense than everyone else, at which point it's a different word. And the different pronouns is straight-up nonsense. The purpose of a pronoun is to be less specific. I could get on board with dropping gender from personal pronouns, but making up a million new ones for each permutation, PLUS then some people insisting that theirs change day to day and you need to constantly check in with them? That's just attention-seeking IMO.

But am I gonna post the above on facebook under my real name? Not worth the hassle.
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#23
12-07-2017, 01:19 AM
 Marcie Member CAS Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 9,680

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 Originally Posted by You, Quokka Seagulls There were five sexes on Tralfamadore, each of them performing a step necessary in the creation of a new individual...
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 Originally Posted by TheGillotine So it goes.
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#24
12-07-2017, 08:14 AM
 yoyo Member CAS Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 23,487

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 Originally Posted by Marcie RN RN
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#25
12-31-2017, 01:34 AM
 Colonel Smoothie Member CAS Join Date: Sep 2010 College: Jamba Juice University Favorite beer: AO Amber Ale Posts: 49,103

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 Originally Posted by Abelian Grape wat
It is in the sense that genders are simply labels that we've attached to observed phenomena. I agree with George Frankly on this one. Historically it has been 2, but that number has been trending up. The words we use to describe what we see change in meaning over time, and this is one example of it.
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#26
12-31-2017, 04:15 AM
 NattyMo Member Non-Actuary Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 606

Didn't languages have genders and people have a sex back in the day?

Or is that the point -- that a false equivalency is being made between these two words.
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#27
12-31-2017, 07:40 PM
 Colonel Smoothie Member CAS Join Date: Sep 2010 College: Jamba Juice University Favorite beer: AO Amber Ale Posts: 49,103

I just noticed that OP didn't specify whether the question applied to any other species besides humans. If so, there are species out there that we've observed to have more than two genders.
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#28
12-31-2017, 10:18 PM
 Browncoat Captain Tightpants Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Serenity, Captain's Quarters Favorite beer: :exams: Posts: 43,030

Where's the choice for less than 2? poll is flawed.
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01-01-2018, 03:50 PM
 Abelian Grape Meme-ber                         Meme-ber CAS Join Date: Jul 2014 Favorite beer: Allagash Curieux Posts: 42,135

Doesn’t the B in LGBT imply 2?
#30
01-01-2018, 07:53 PM
 nonlnear Member Non-Actuary Join Date: May 2010 Favorite beer: Civil Society Fresh IPA Posts: 30,992

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 Originally Posted by Abelian Grape Doesn’t the B in LGBT imply 2?
No. B means ${ 60 \choose 2 }$