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Old 02-07-2019, 12:52 PM
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HAHAHA yous a fool for suggesting Arch pays as well as liberty
Hmm well I got that info from this board and can’t verify for sure... but sompo’d is listings seem to include pay and I saw one of their actuarial analyst roles paying 70k a couple months ago.

I’ve heard arch pays 170 for fcas... seems close to liberty imo.

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Old 02-07-2019, 12:55 PM
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it seems on the high side to me, especially for everyone and not just really top performers.
That's why it seems high. There are only top performers, those expected to become top performers, and those who will not be with the company for long.
They have always had a strong pay-for-performance philosophy and implemented the philosophy in a way that they really do pay top performers much better than average performers. And they have always had very high standards for entry level college hires. Over the past few years, they have also moved to a much more aggressive stance on average or sub-par performers.

If you feel that you are not exceptional, it is not an environment to go to just for the higher pay.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:06 PM
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HAHAHA yous a fool for suggesting Arch pays as well as liberty
glassdoors range for arch's actuarial analyst position is 70-110k... seems comparable to liberty to me..
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:13 PM
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something something rhymes with brincoln brinancial something
yeah this is important... after the life actuaries left, both companies had increase in average employee intelligence/productivity... kinda like the riddle "bottom 10% of new jersey residents move to arkansas, and both states average iq went up"...

thus liberty was able to pay their average employee more with the mass exodus of life actuaries
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HAHAHA yous a fool for suggesting Arch pays as well as liberty
FWIW I work at Arch and I started at $110k total comp w/ 2 years experience and 1 exam away from ACAS. I've been above the 90th percentile of the DW Simpson salary survey my whole time here. My comp has increased by over 50% after the 3 years I've been here and getting FCAS.
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How many resumes do you have incoming rn?
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FWIW I work at Arch and I started at $110k total comp w/ 2 years experience and 1 exam away from ACAS. I've been above the 90th percentile of the DW Simpson salary survey my whole time here. My comp has increased by over 50% after the 3 years I've been here and getting FCAS.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I interviewed there at some point and the budget for the position I was told was lower than expected. Certainly lower than the numbers at liberty
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:17 PM
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Interesting. I stand corrected. I interviewed there at some point and the budget for the position I was told was lower than expected. Certainly lower than the numbers at liberty
whos the fool now?

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I got an Actuarial Analyst offer from Arch when I had 5 exams for 75K. Of course ya boi tried to negotiate a higher salary and the best they could offer up was a 3K sign on bonus. I was a bit shocked since I was always under the impression that reinsurance paid better.

FWIW they do put 10% of your salary towards your retirement account and an additional 5% for every dollar above 130K.

Anyways I respect Liberty Mutual's salary range transparency and NYL student program transparency. Very few companies are as open.
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