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Old 01-31-2019, 07:10 PM
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Ehhhhhh, I learned all the Excel/VBA/SQL I needed (to be better than the other actuaries) in about 2 months. That leaves 40 years of not growing.
I was more referring to other languages, like C#, VB, Python and R.
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I was more referring to other languages, like C#, VB, Python and R.
I like C# for programming games in Unity.

But speaking as someone who just finally hit 6-figures, it's definitely not necessary to double or triple your starting salary in our career.
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I like C# for programming games in Unity.

But speaking as someone who just finally hit 6-figures, it's definitely not necessary to double or triple your starting salary in our career.
Not necessary, but it certainly helps. One can double their salary pretty much through the exam process.

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Gotta get rid of the dead wood in Actuarial.
Menial tasks seem to persist even in the face of automation. Automation doesn't always automate things perfectly, and there are plenty of menial tasks to fill in the gaps that are done by the lower skilled workers. I imagine the mediocre actuaries will remain, but they'll just be doing things at a higher level of abstraction/productivity. i.e., the button pressers still press buttons, but the buttons are more powerful.
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Although, if "hard things" includes projects where you have to pull an answer out of your rear end because you have nowhere even close to enough data to do a thorough analysis, 70% could conceivably be too low in the 'po.
My first assignment when I started was to review rates for a line of business I'd never seen, that hadn't been updated in 11 years, and was on a prior version of an ISO program. Good times.
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I measure career growth by how much my paycheque is growing. I don't really care that much about what kind of work I'm doing as long as I'm getting paid to do it.
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Holy cow, I'd love to be only at 70%.
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To me "hard things" is dealing with people.

Code/numerical stuff is easy.
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To me "hard things" is dealing with people.

Code/numerical stuff is easy.
maybe that's because you stopped growing with your coding/numerical stuff? I mean, if you have worked in the insurance industry your whole career then you may be accustomed to the programming and numeracy skills required to do your job and you haven't left your comfort zone. if you started working in Data Science at Amazon, I'm sure you'd have things to learn, right? can you make a believable Chat bot in Python?

sorry, I'm just triggered you'd call 'coding/numerical stuff' easy.
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maybe that's because you stopped growing with your coding/numerical stuff? I mean, if you have worked in the insurance industry your whole career then you may be accustomed to the programming and numeracy skills required to do your job and you haven't left your comfort zone. if you started working in Data Science at Amazon, I'm sure you'd have things to learn, right? can you make a believable Chat bot in Python?
Yeah, that's totally Campbell, never challenging herself technically
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