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Old 07-17-2017, 12:11 PM
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hahaha, when I looked back I was like "duh, Westley is probably one of those annoying hiring managers who has no idea how to evaluate technical skills, and just assumes all actuaries have them more or less equally..."

(Though to be fair I wouldn't have guessed Dr T either-- occasional I see him post something like, "if your pivot tables aren't working then you need to get your analysts to run better queries" which I translate to: drunk with power.)
Not sure how you read anything I say like that. I'm no manager. I run my own queries such that pivot tables are not required. I know of some places that have data analysts run queries and actuaries are at their mercy. More like "drunk without any power."
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:02 PM
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Not sure how you read anything I say like that. I'm no manager. I run my own queries such that pivot tables are not required. I know of some places that have data analysts run queries and actuaries are at their mercy. More like "drunk without any power."
It's quite possible I confused you again!
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:07 PM
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We could turn this into a running gag.

Or, I go off on Twitter rants for several hours.
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Agree with Traci's suggestion that this should be a running gag.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:16 PM
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Thanks for the input, everyone! Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to this.

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Need to send out more applications . . . be willing to open your geographic options (unless something is keeping tied to a particular locale).
Working on it, and I've been open/applying to pretty much any part of the country. The only condition I have is that I'd prefer to avoid giant metropolitan cities (LA, Chicago, NYC, etc.), but if I get an interview or offer, that's definitely not a deal-breaker.


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What are you doing now that you've graduated from college?
I sat for MFE last Tuesday. I think I did well, but since SOA made some pretty major revisions to the syllabus starting with the July exam, I wasn't able to get a preliminary "pass/fail" from the computer.

So, while I'm waiting for those results to come in, I'm applying for jobs, doing some general industry research to become more knowledgeable, and working on other ways to make myself a more competitive candidate.


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I suggest learning SQL, because it's lots of bang for buck. Read SQL for dummies then find a site with practice problems. You should get it in a week.

Excel and VBA are next. There's no book to read for Excel, unfortunately. You just gotta mess around.

I recommend VBA for dummies, and practicing it a lot. It's a lot bigger than SQL. It's more like a real language like Smoothie was talking about. Consider printing out some code and bringing it with you, so you can walk a potential interviewer through the process.

Skip SAS. Similar to R, it's specialized and uncommon (and annoying).

Whatever skills you are learning, if a phone-screener mentions that they are looking for X-- then cram X as hard as you can so you can tell them that you know some stuff.
Thanks a bunch - I'll be sure to look into those.
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EL actuaries mostly rely on their technical skills to get started in the profession. And then they assume that technical skills are the most important thing. They are wrong, IMO.
The most important skill is making others perceive that you have a high value; regardless if you do or not.

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hahaha, when I looked back I was like "duh, Westley is probably one of those annoying hiring managers who has no idea how to evaluate technical skills, and just assumes all actuaries have them more or less equally..."

(Though to be fair I wouldn't have guessed Dr T either-- occasional I see him post something like, "if your pivot tables aren't working then you need to get your analysts to run better queries" which I translate to: drunk with power.)
I thought Westley worked jelsoft enterprises.
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