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View Poll Results: Should the US put a standing army near it's border to protect the country
Yes 5 15.15%
No 26 78.79%
42 acts of aggression 2 6.06%
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:19 PM
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Default Should the US place a standing army near Mexico and Canada to protect the border?


Washington (CNN)The Mexican ambassador to the US said Tuesday that President Donald Trump's apparent call for the US military to guard the US-Mexico border is an unwelcome one.

"It's certainly not something that the Mexican government welcomes, but as soon as we have further clarification, we can expect to have a better idea of where we are," Ambassador Gerónimo Gutiérrez said in an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour.
The Mexican ambassador stressed that his government is still trying to clarify what exactly Trump meant.

Although Trump wasn't specific about what the troops' scope and authority would be, both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush oversaw temporary deployments of National Guard troops to the border during their tenures.
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Old 04-06-2018, 07:25 AM
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It'll keep them out of trouble.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:39 AM
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Don't care. I voted "Yes" because it's less bad than other border ideas.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:44 AM
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We gotta be sure that those Canucks stay on their side!!
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No. Build a wall.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:15 PM
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The common stat I've heard is that there are "fewer arrests for illegal crossings than ever before."
Gets me wondering, as a guy who understands numerators and denominators, we don't really know how many illegal crossings were not caught.
Perhaps the "coyotes" got smarter, or that the border patrol got easier to bribe or something. Or the border patrol was told not to capture as many, by someone higher up on the government ladder. Who knows for sure?

Mexico's fertility rate has dropped to US levels, from a high of 7 (7 what? children per female per year? That sounds wrong) in 1965. That could infer that there are fewer total crossings (caught and uncaught) than in the past, assuming a somewhat constant capture rate.

Due to demographic changes in Latin America the United States is not likely to ever again experience the level of illegal entry it saw 10 to 20 years ago. “The total fertility rate in Mexico was seven in 1965, which then plummeted over the next several decades, dropping to 2.5 by 2000, close to the U.S. level of 2.1,” according to economists Gordon Hanson, Chen Liu and Craig McIntosh. “This means that in the past decade, a major demographic driver of unskilled immigration to the U.S. has effectively switched into neutral. These demographic changes are likely to have substantial impacts on the relative scarcity of unskilled to skilled labor, regardless of which immigration policy the U.S. pursues on its border.”
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Most are coming from places with political unrest further south from Mexico, where their lives are in danger, and John Oliver pointed that out a few weeks ago.

Might be cheaper to build a wall on the southern end of Mexico. Not as long. Cheaper labor force. Etc.
OK, after finding that snopes has a few articles noted "false" regarding a wall between Mexico and Guatemala, there is no wall there, but most of the border is very difficult to cross and would be very difficult to build a wall.
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No. Build a wall.
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