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Personally, I am skeptical of anything that doesn't have blind grading, which you simply don't have at a university. The student's name is right there on the paper, test, whatever.
You dont write your name on an exam script.

Seriously, so much misinformation floating around here about the UK.

You are given a student number and an exam number at a UK University.

During an exam you write down only your exam number on the script. The grader (who is independent) will not know who you are, which makes the process fair.
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You dont write your name on an exam script.

Seriously, so much misinformation floating around here about the UK.

You are given a student number and an exam number at a UK University.

During an exam you write down only your exam number on the script. The grader (who is independent) will not know who you are, which makes the process fair.
And universities like LSE use multiple graders as well as internal and external examiners.
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You dont write your name on an exam script.

Seriously, so much misinformation floating around here about the UK.

You are given a student number and an exam number at a UK University.

During an exam you write down only your exam number on the script. The grader (who is independent) will not know who you are, which makes the process fair.
When final grades are determined, does the professor know which students get which grades? Does the professor determine the final grades for each student?
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When final grades are determined, does the professor know which students get which grades? Does the professor determine the final grades for each student?
The grades are determined by the usual formula. All coursework is tracked (in terms of results) for each student. These results are kept both in hardcopy and electronically at the faculty.

They final grade is based on the final exam grade (usually 75-100% of the overall grade) and coursework (0-25% of the overall grade)

The professor can only have an effect on the coursework. He has no control over the exam grading and results.

There is nothing he can do to change grades as there are too many backups.
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How much does it cost to get exemptions from SOA exams and modules?
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Is there a reason for this policy at your company?

There is simply no reason why any student in the UK would take an actuarial exam by the Institute when they are getting exemptions from their university for the same exam. To go further ahead with the exams than the CT exams without any experience would be similar to having say 5 or 6 exams in the US but not having any experience and I question whether you would also hire such a person.

It would sound to me like you are unfairly discriminating against students from the UK. What is the difference between a student from the UK with exemptions due to a degree and a US student with a degree that has done the first 4 exams?
Unfairly discrimination.. You aint seen anything yet.. I know a couple of lads that have taken the UK body to task for discrimination against UK members
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Have a look at this document. They got done for race discrimination. Another lad of Indian origin actually got kicked out of the Indian profession because he has British nationality..
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The grades are determined by the usual formula. All coursework is tracked (in terms of results) for each student. These results are kept both in hardcopy and electronically at the faculty.

They final grade is based on the final exam grade (usually 75-100% of the overall grade) and coursework (0-25% of the overall grade)

The professor can only have an effect on the coursework. He has no control over the exam grading and results.

There is nothing he can do to change grades as there are too many backups.
That's interesting. That is completely unlike US university exams. Also, in the US, professors have a lot of leeway as to what they teach and what will be on the exam. There's no way for an actuarial society to require anything in particular on the syllabus, let alone vet whether what they've agreed on is there. That's why we only give waivers for "peripheral" course work, not for the core actuarial material.

Twig, candidate numbers are on CAS papers, and I assume on SoA papers. But as there are a lot of graders on every exam, and two different ones for each problem, the benefit you might get from telling your friendly neighborhood grader your candidate number so they can grade it unfairly in your favor is extremely small, and unlikely to be worth the risk of being caught.

Like, if an answer is not exactly one of the cases contemplated by the grading rubric, one grader might be able to persuade the other to bump up one candidate's score by a quarter point. But it's hard to think of a situation where it could be more than that. You'd need a LOT of friends grading your exam to have a meaningful expected gain. And you'd need every one of them to keep silent about the cheating.
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Have a look at this document. They got done for race discrimination. Another lad of Indian origin actually got kicked out of the Indian profession because he has British nationality..
First of all, let's just keep this to one thread, the one you started:
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...30#post9351130

Second, that letter does not describe what you say it does. At all. As i said in the main thread, post something of substance, and I'll happily engage in discussion on this.
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