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I have no idea what an ACIA is without an ASA, and I'm an ASA and ACIA.
ACIA + ACAS, Ms Kapowski?

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Roight. I was thinking more along the lines of what an ACIA would mean if it were standalone.

But it can't be standalone. Therefore, I consider them bonus letters - exclusive to an elite group of individuals, such as myself.
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Is ACIA the Canadian version of MAAA? If so, it doesn't sound that useful alone.
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Is ACIA the Canadian version of MAAA? If so, it doesn't sound that useful alone.
All I had to do to get ACIA was take the Canadian version of the professionalism workshop and send in my SOA transcript (not saying I didn't wait an entire year to send that email... but I digress).

Getting ACIA is essentially just putting a tiny Canadian flag at the end of your name.
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Is the EL job market being shittier in Canada more to do with the crappy market or over saturation of candidates? I know both play a role, but what’s the main driver?
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I've heard actuarial job placement rate is less than 25% for acsc grads in Canada.
I remember at one time, the argument in favor of what was then known as the "alternate route", was the shortage actuarial students due to the exam based system.
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Is the EL job market being shittier in Canada more to do with the crappy market or over saturation of candidates? I know both play a role, but what’s the main driver?
My particular company still brings in a good number of newbies every year for the rotation program, so I have a biased perspective. Also, they hired me with no experience and only 2 exams, PRAISE ****** - but that was 8 years ago.

I think the more immediate crisis is the number of new or near FSA's that are now sitting in the pool wondering if there will be any permanent director roles available for them. The story may be different in Toronto.
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My particular company still brings in a good number of newbies every year for the rotation program, so I have a biased perspective. Also, they hired me with no experience and only 2 exams, PRAISE ****** - but that was 8 years ago.

I think the more immediate crisis is the number of new or near FSA's that are now sitting in the pool wondering if there will be any permanent director roles available for them. The story may be different in Toronto.
What is a good number? More than 10, more than 50?

I know a few Canadian companies that laid off actuaries as soon as they get the FSA.
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All I had to do to get ACIA was take the Canadian version of the professionalism workshop and send in my SOA transcript (not saying I didn't wait an entire year to send that email... but I digress).

Getting ACIA is essentially just putting a tiny Canadian flag at the end of your name.
Don't forget that to be an "FCIA" you have to be an "ACIA" (for 2 years?).
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What is a good number? More than 10, more than 50?
Perhaps "a good number" was not the right choice of words... let's say we at least hire "some" newbies every year.
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