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Old 06-29-2018, 11:39 AM
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YouTube List of issue - IFoA getting sued for Victimization & Racism against UK members

Dear all,
Here is the list of issues as promised.It encompasses both claims.

When the Judgement is given, (in a few weeks) I will post up more items to do with the case

To avoid mud slinging, I will not answer questions from those that were trolling in the thread that got shut down (including those extrapolating something from nothing and those applying absurd logic).

Furthermore, I have not appointed anyone to provide a summary of the case.


Finally, I would also like to say thanks to the decent folk on here that have kept an open mind.







Given that the IFoA has thousands of students, why did they need to keep a watch on his exam progress??

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Man, that PDF is hard to follow, with all the R's and C's and PCP's.
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Old 06-29-2018, 12:17 PM
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Man, that PDF is hard to follow, with all the R's and C's and PCP's.
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R is Respondent, C is Claimant and PCP is provision, criterion or practice
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Old 06-29-2018, 12:42 PM
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Would suggest that those that are new to it in this thread, the other thread has some pretty good background that's worth reading in order to understand the personalities involved.
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Dear all,
Here is the list of issues as promised. It encompasses both claims.
To avoid getting in to any mud slinging, I will not answer questions from those that were trolling in the thread that got shut down.


I would also like to say thanks to the decent folk on here that have kept an open mind.

That's really long. Why should I take the time to read it?
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Blacking out the "CTUARI" does nothing.
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Blacking out the "CTUARI" does nothing.


Although, leaving in the claim reference numbers in paragraphs 14 and 15 does help identify the claimant. So, you know, swings and roundabouts.
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That's really long. Why should I take the time to read it?
If the OP doesn't do one before then, and if it looks like there's enough interest, I'll post a summary on Monday. Because, despite being one of the "trolls" from the thread that got shut down, I remain genuinely interested in this. But I'm ****ed if I'm giving over weekend time to it.
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Edit: Nevermind, I was linking a sumif and didn't open the linked spreadsheet. It is now giving me #N/A.
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Summary, in case anyone cares. This is all based on my reading of the info provided. I don't know if the OP, or his friend, will tell me if I'm wrong.

There are 2 allegations against the IFoA here.

The first accusation is of discrimination. Which seems to centre on:
- The claimaint has passed all exams apart from CA3 (Communications) and SA2 (Specialist UK Life)
- The claimant believes it is discriminatory to expect him to pass these as other jurisdictions, which have a mutual recognition program with the IFoA, don’t have equivalent exams
- The claimant also believes he should be eligible for reduced CPD requirements as a University student. It’s not clear from the doc why he does or why the IFoA doesn’t agree.

Secondly is victimisation. Where the claimant believes the IFoA has deliberately failed his exam sittings, as a result of him reporting the IFoA’s discounts to overseas members to the equality regulator (noting that the IFoA has since changed their stance, so the IFoA either agrees with him, or the equality regulator told the IFoA to agree with him).
The meat of the victimisation allegation is that they did not mark his paper, this conclusion is reached based on an “irregularity” in the recording of the marks. The irregularity being that he was not provided his marks when he submitted a subject access request for them - this was in 2012. The current IFoA stance would be to provide the marks, it’s not clear from anything we’ve seen whether to not provide his SA2 marks was the standard approach from the IFoA at the time.
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Summary, in case anyone cares. This is all based on my reading of the info provided. I don't know if the OP, or his friend, will tell me if I'm wrong.

There are 2 allegations against the IFoA here.

The first accusation is of discrimination. Which seems to centre on:
- The claimaint has passed all exams apart from CA3 (Communications) and SA2 (Specialist UK Life)
- The claimant believes it is discriminatory to expect him to pass these as other jurisdictions, which have a mutual recognition program with the IFoA, don’t have equivalent exams
- The claimant also believes he should be eligible for reduced CPD requirements as a University student. It’s not clear from the doc why he does or why the IFoA doesn’t agree.

Secondly is victimisation. Where the claimant believes the IFoA has deliberately failed his exam sittings, as a result of him reporting the IFoA’s discounts to overseas members to the equality regulator (noting that the IFoA has since changed their stance, so the IFoA either agrees with him, or the equality regulator told the IFoA to agree with him).
The meat of the victimisation allegation is that they did not mark his paper, this conclusion is reached based on an “irregularity” in the recording of the marks. The irregularity being that he was not provided his marks when he submitted a subject access request for them - this was in 2012. The current IFoA stance would be to provide the marks, it’s not clear from anything we’ve seen whether to not provide his SA2 marks was the standard approach from the IFoA at the time.
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Also, twss.
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