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Thank you for this, I'll stick with that order. Spivak has been referenced quite a bit actually on https://math.stackexchange.com/ when people are recommending textbooks, I had already purchased Apostol at the time of finding this website though. If you think it's a good idea I'll pick up Spivak once I get to working through Apostol as a reference text.

Also, do you think math stack exchange could be a good resource for those times when I can't see the step being taken, enough for me to get through mostly on my own at least?
Yes - I do this myself. I go on that website essentially daily: https://math.stackexchange.com/users/81560/clarinetist.
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I would not advise doing Analysis before Linear Algebra. I recommend the Linear Algebra text by Lay, or the Intro to Linear Algebra text by Strang, and you should aim to cover the entirety of the text.

Analysis is really, really tough to learn on your own, and it's one of those things that you can't learn without adequate feedback. If you can take a class for this with a good professor, I would recommend you do so.
Sounds good, I'll see what I can do about the course. For the time being, I'll check out those books you recommended on LA. Thanks again!
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+1 on taking analysis with a (good!) professor.

You might also consider auditing the course first to see the material w/o worrying about "getting it right enough" for grades.

Then take it for a grade the following semester. There are many things that "make more sense" when you have an idea of what is coming up later.
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I'm going to throw out my references list for you. You may find it helpful:

http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...24#post9097324

If you look at the PDF, I've roughly sorted it by difficulty.

For a grad-level math program, I would recommend at least getting to the (1.5) difficulty on Calculus/Real Analysis, and perhaps some exposure to (2.2) on linear algebra.

For probability at the level of P, (3.1) will suffice, but for a graduate program, you should be familiar with (3.3), probably (3.4), and most likely (3.6).

Let me know if you have any questions.
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do you even realize the amount of work this master plan of yours would require?

1, work full time (during the day)
2, go to school for undergraduate studies and maintain that 3.8 GPA of yours (during evenings)
3, prepare for two actuarial exams
4, prepare for (ivy university) graduate school admission

You need to do all of the above at the same time.

Wouldn't it be better to attempt an actuarial exam (a prelim) first to get a taste of what it's like so that you can maybe eliminate some of your options? and keep in mind that fellowship exams are different from and (arguably) much harder than the prelims, that's why we have career ASAs.
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I'm going to throw out my references list for you. You may find it helpful:

http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...24#post9097324

If you look at the PDF, I've roughly sorted it by difficulty.

For a grad-level math program, I would recommend at least getting to the (1.5) difficulty on Calculus/Real Analysis, and perhaps some exposure to (2.2) on linear algebra.

For probability at the level of P, (3.1) will suffice, but for a graduate program, you should be familiar with (3.3), probably (3.4), and most likely (3.6).

Let me know if you have any questions.
This is amazing, you've just saved me so much time researching. Thank you so much.
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do you even realize the amount of work this master plan of yours would require?

1, work full time (during the day)
2, go to school for undergraduate studies and maintain that 3.8 GPA of yours (during evenings)
3, prepare for two actuarial exams
4, prepare for (ivy university) graduate school admission

You need to do all of the above at the same time.

Wouldn't it be better to attempt an actuarial exam (a prelim) first to get a taste of what it's like so that you can maybe eliminate some of your options? and keep in mind that fellowship exams are different from and (arguably) much harder than the prelims, that's why we have career ASAs.
Yeah, it's a lot, I'm working my way up to it. At the moment I'm doing 1 and 2, and I'm taking the CPCU at an accelerated rate to help prepare myself for taking the next step towards the actuarial exams. I guess that can be step 2.5. Step 3 and 4 will definitely add a lot, it might be too much for me.

You're right about not knowing until I've taken the actuarial exam, maybe I'll waste some time leading up to the exam and realize that I can't handle all of the above.

Knowing this, I still think laying the groundwork and potentially doing some formal research leading up to the exam is fine, if it turns out grad schools going to be a no go at that point then ok, that's life. But if I wait and get to the exam and turns out, hey, I think grad school is doable, I'll have lost a lot of prep time. Of course, doing exam P sooner would answer that question quicker so I see where you're coming from. I guess I'm just ok with not finding out until later because it makes everything else I'm doing now go smoother. If I get involved in some research, maybe do some volunteer work etc, and it turns out grad schools out of the question once I start the actuarial exam prep, I won't look at it as time wasted. I look at it as taking steps towards a goal that maybe I'll fail to achieve, doesn't mean to not take the steps in the first place.

All of this is assuming I even am going to pursue grad school at all though. The info everyone has given me has been really helpful and I need to think on it some more. I'm also going to review the textbook list in detail at the levels clarinetist recommended to get a better idea of what I'm in for.
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The bolded will be difficult to get/do w/o at least a masters degree.

There are some places that might take you in with a career in lieu of the master's; but having the masters will make it a shoe-in to get an adjunct position if you also have lots of experience.
A Nobel Prize would fill in for a doctorate
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As complicated as this situation is, I'm going to throw in one more wrinkle: if you're really serious about the actuarial route, you should start taking exams ASAP so that you're competitive for actuarial internships. That seems to be a barrier for a lot of people getting their first actuarial position (and it was for me).

I'm an idiot and just remembered the OP's employment situation.
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