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Old 02-17-2010, 03:22 PM
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and with the cooperation of poor lawyering on behalf of the AAA,
Lol. That's certainly one interpretation of the events! Sore loser .
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:49 AM
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It's been a while and everyone has moved on, right?

It has been very quiet on the AAA front..........

Also I have not seen/heard anything reported about disciplinary action on the Hartman complaint about Schobel to ABCD that featured in the AAA exchanges. I know there were other complaints filed as well from all sides but the Hartman one is the one that disturbed me the most as it was referenced in exchanges between AAA Board and ordinary members before the complaint had even been considered.

Perhaps it is still too early by ABCD standards for outcomes to be known. Tom Bakos posted here he has a complaint outstanding from some 6 years or so ago.


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This brings us up to posting #1048 in this thread, net of the deletions of prior posts and posters, and deletion of earlier threads.

For convenient reference, the following are the page links to some key issues within this thread as it now stands (and some related threads and links):


Sept 30 2009 - AAA/Schobel Lawsuit Resolved
http://www.actuary.org/newsroom/pdf/...ion_sept09.pdf
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...26#post3942526
http://actuary.org/pdf/academy/settlement.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/bu.../02insure.html

NY Times article 2009-09-07 etc (and initial discussion)
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...=174653&page=1 (with initial discussion then following)
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...94#post3898194

Various Tom Bakos exhibits including initial NY Times article as annotated by Bruce and/or Tom:
http://www.BakosEnterprises.com/Academy

Bruce's Jan 2009 ASNA article referencing career accomplishments
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...94#post3898294
http://www.anea-asna.ca/documents/20...A_magazine.pdf

Role of preliminary injunction vs. TRO:
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...62#post3913162

Sanford Case - electonic docket and availability of Arbitration Award and related materials:
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...07#post3937707
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...44#post3890744
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...98#post3890498
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...30#post3927630
https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/...schobel&CDate=

No confidentiality agreement on arbitration award.
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...78#post3927578
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...26#post3888526

Issue of "expunged" conviction record revealed in 2009.
http://www.njexpungements.com/faq.php
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...14#post3920714

Challenging the timeline identified by exactuary
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...24#post3892324
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...94#post3898294

New Jersey Felony Conviction.
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...51#post3890851
http://www.state.nj.us/dobi/ad101101.htm
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...174653&page=45
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/cmt04.pdf

Bruce addresses reasons for not resigning as PE, and some reasons why Bruce would be entitled to be AAA President.
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...38#post3888238
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...97#post3899797
Also see link mentioned above on interview on career accomplishments.

Identifying reasons to support paying Bruce compensatory damage $$, even though the legal action is basically not about the money, if Bruce is blocked from becoming AAA President.
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...15#post3920915
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...38#post3888238
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...93#post3901493
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...02#post3898402
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...09#post3914909
Also see links above on some reasons why Bruce entitled to be AAA President.

to repeat:
Various Tom Bakos exhibits
http://www.BakosEnterprises.com/Academy

Sept 30 2009 - AAA/Schobel Lawsuit Resolved
http://www.actuary.org/newsroom/pdf/...ion_sept09.pdf
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actu...26#post3942526
http://actuary.org/pdf/academy/settlement.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/bu.../02insure.html
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FYI The ABCD has without comment rejected my most recent complaint and all requests for information.

The Academy together with the ABCD have racked up (my educated guess) close to $1.5 million in litigation/settlement costs with officers/terminated employees over the past few months with more likely. If you are a member of the AAA you may want to ask for more detail on this - it is your dues that are being spent). The Academy has a Board meeting tomorrow, Thursday, 1/28/2010.

I hope to get something up on the ABCD response on http://www.bakosenterprises.com/ABCD regarding this by next week.
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Going to Tom Bakos's site, I see this:

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So doesn't sound like he's had anything to report since then.
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The latest issue of Contingencies magazine has some questions and is requesting member feedback specifically about the disciplinary process. (It I had the article in some decent format - decent<>e-mag - I would link to it.)
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The latest issue of Contingencies magazine has some questions and is requesting member feedback specifically about the disciplinary process. (It I had the article in some decent format - decent<>e-mag - I would link to it.)
Here are links:
http://www.contingenciesonline.com/c.../20100506#pg10
http://www.contingenciesonline.com/c.../20100506#pg18

I thought there was a lot of good articles in the most recent edition. [the dead tree version is more user-friendly. For one, its default display size/resolution is friendly to the reader]
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Another irritating thing is that apparently one cannot copy text from the e-mag.

I would really like to quote the questions when I draft my response, but why should I have to retype what has already been made machine-readable? I just don't get it. Or maybe I need training in how to read a magazine on-line. <sigh>
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Let's see....I tried printing to PDF... and nope, didn't do anything. It's an image! ARGH.

Not cool.

SILLY ME: there's a download as pdf option, but it downloads the whole magazine.

Yes, you can select text and copy/paste it from the downloaded pdf version.
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I guess I know what my next bitchy letter to Contingencies will be about.
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Let's see....I tried printing to PDF... and nope, didn't do anything. It's an image! ARGH.

Not cool.

SILLY ME: there's a download as pdf option, but it downloads the whole magazine.

Yes, you can select text and copy/paste it from the downloaded pdf version.
THAT's what I should of done.

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I guess I know what my next bitchy letter to Contingencies will be about.
Can I send an "I approve of this complaint" to attach to it?
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