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Old 02-02-2015, 01:00 AM
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Maybe OP should open a restaurant with automated ordering. Then OP can benefit from the new technology, and put some competition into that market.

Competition drives prices down, which drives wages down, but you can afford the lower prices with the lower wages. I'm not worrying.
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Everyone could work a lot less now if they wanted to - lots of bullshit "make work" type of jobs out there
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I mean I agree with everyone saying it will deepen wealth disparity. Those who are doing the automating or who already control large amounts of investable capital will benefit greatly from these changes. They will become wealthier while prices go down and economic surplus increases.

However for those without the skills necessary to adapt, they will become poorer as prices fall (but who knows if the drops will be equivalent).

It just makes me want to learn programming even more since I have pretty much just put my toes in the water as far as that knowledge goes.

Even then, I just hope that I will be diligent enough with my earnings in the first 20-30 years of my career so that even if progress outpaces my abilities I will have enough capital to be one of the benefactors of the changes.
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this guy puts the fun in kimjongfun
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The solution will be to cut the work week to 30 hours (maybe less). Even a lot of mainstream economists are saying that's what needs to happen. There just isn't enough work to give everyone a 40-hour/week job anymore.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:15 AM
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The solution will be to cut the work week to 30 hours (maybe less). Even a lot of mainstream economists are saying that's what needs to happen. There just isn't enough work to give everyone a 40-hour/week job anymore.
We could have done this 40 years ago. Americans don't tend to value free time as much as much as they value having the next consumer bauble.
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Half of my job is learning crap. I probably "work work" <20 hours (this includes writing documentation...so others can spend their work time learning) and spend the rest figuring stuff out. Then I go home and study for exams.

Seems like the natural progression with so much knowledge creation is for more and more of the 40 hour workweek to be replaced with learning. If you think the future is 10 hour workweeks where you spend the rest of your time drinking and hanging out, you're probably wrong.

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If you want to ration work hours, you need to remember that some people need to make more money to have fun than others do. Some people of have the luxury of inexpensive fun activities, and others need to compensate or fix something first.

What if someone who does not look that good naturally wants to compensate by purchasing nice looking cloths, but can't afford them while working 30 hours per week? I think giving everyone the same income would only mean that people dealt worse cards genetically are prevented from improving their lot.
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Or I'd rather work hard to have cool stuff. What's the point of sitting at home, or playing outside in rundown fields?

I'll pay for my $200/mo gym to get Eucalyptus towels and take cabs to get massages after.
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