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OP's is different. Other noncompetes say that you can't work for a competitor for a specified amount of time.
It also says stuff about not being able to do certain work for competitors. I just didn't want to get too specific.
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Is OP referring to non-solicitation agreement? ....which you can not poach former employer's talents. I can deal/live with this.

I certainly can't deal with non-compete agreements, unless it's a director or VP job which I will usually be paid 1 year of salary under most situations.

When is the good time to ask if there's such a clause? During job offer notification? I found it's usually the small companies doing crazy things like this.
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Is OP referring to non-solicitation agreement? ....which you can not poach former employer's talents. I can deal/live with this.

I certainly can't deal with non-compete agreements, unless it's a director or VP job which I will usually be paid 1 year of salary under most situations.

When is the good time to ask if there's such a clause? During job offer notification? I found it's usually the small companies doing crazy things like this.
big and small companies do this. time to ask is at time of offer. in many states (most? all?) they aren't enforceable unless you are given consideration for forfeiting/restricting your employment opportunities. So that's why they come at hiring point - you getting the job is usually considered "consideration". If they ask everyone already employed to sign them, they have to give you some cash (keeping your job isn't "consideration" in what I've been told).

So, yes, ask about it when you are being hired. Find out how inflexible they are (I predict they are inflexible and that them paying you a year of salary for "garden leave" isn't common in the US.)

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At my current company, only directors and above need to sign non-compete. They are very reasonable, only 4-5 companies within a year, you get a year of pay after termination (except voluntary).

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So, yes, ask about it when you are being hired. Find out how inflexible they are (I predict they are inflexible and that them paying you a year of salary for "garden leave" isn't common in the US.)
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Thanks, in fact I'll ask up front as the first thing when offered the job and if there's one, I'll have to read it carefully and even consult lawyer if needed before accepting the offer. Some companies you can negotiate limiting the scope.

I am quite OK if they're only limiting direct competitors within 6 months - 1 year. Let's say a carrier in TX limiting companies in TX,AR,OK, and NM. I am usually open geographically for new jobs (we need to be flexible geographically as we move up the corporate ladder), anything beyond that without "garden leave" I would simply to tell them kiss my ....

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At my current company, only directors and above need to sign non-compete. They are very reasonable, only 4-5 companies within a year, you get a year of pay after termination (except voluntary).



Thanks, in fact I'll ask up front as the first thing when offered the job and if there's one, I'll have to read it carefully and even consult lawyer if needed before accepting the offer. Some companies you can negotiate limiting the scope.

I am quite OK if they're only limiting direct competitors within 6 months - 1 year. Let's say a carrier in TX limiting companies in TX,AR,OK, and NM. I am usually open geographically for new jobs (we need to be flexible geographically as we move up the corporate ladder), anything beyond that without "garden leave" I would simply to tell them kiss my ....
The majority I have seen are more in the Consulting/Broking space and not traditional re/insurance jobs. They are also of the variety that you can go work for a competitor, but you just can't try and take your old clients with you for a specified time period.
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I know of at least one insurance company where they were sticklers on it bc there was an arch-nemesis competitor company in town. so not always just reinsurance and consulting. specific cases obv vary.
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