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Old 02-16-2017, 12:20 PM
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I felt trapped once and eventually got a good offer elseware. But the process of going from 'getting frustrated' to 'walking out the door' took me almost a year.

try not to think of it as an all or nothing decision that you have to make today. There is a world of options and if you have a job already (even if you dont like it) you likely have time to really think about what you want to do.
At senior/management/director levels, it may take up to 2 years to find a place that's a fit for you. I am in this situation now, yes, it can be frustrating but there are good days and bad days. Don't wait until every day is a bad day, I'm starting the job search even with 1/3 of the days being bad. There's a danger of getting too comfortable at a job (hint: what will happen when a piglet gets fed too well and fat?), run away while you still can.
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How do you know if its a bad company?
Here is a far from exhaustive list of ways to tell if you're at a bad company:
1. If good employees leave for other companies more often than they get promoted.
2. If your boss tells you "Here's a promotion that has a lot of interesting work with neat problems you would enjoy, and we would really like you to be a part of. Pay? I know you're underpaid, but it's going to take a while to get you where you need to be."
3. If it has a revolving door of top executives.
4. If most lower and middle management are extremely stressed and/or paranoid.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:23 PM
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:24 PM
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Here is a far from exhaustive list of ways to tell if you're at a bad company:
1. If good employees leave for other companies more often than they get promoted.
2. If your boss tells you "Here's a promotion that has a lot of interesting work with neat problems you would enjoy, and we would really like you to be a part of. Pay? I know you're underpaid, but it's going to take a while to get you where you need to be."
3. If it has a revolving door of top executives.
4. If most lower and middle management are extremely stressed and/or paranoid.
3 out of 4...hm
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:14 PM
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I wish I had a more specific question. Just been frustrated, and want to hear others' thoughts.
When you don't think you'd want your boss' job, and a lateral move at your company doesn't work either, it's time to go.

Honestly though, you should be ready to pull the trigger whenever the right job comes up. Don't let anyone fool you about the dangers of job hopping. If you keep getting hired, job hopping isn't hurting you.
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Since you asked a generic question, I'll answer it in a generic way.

In 4 years, you either move up or move out.

Also,

4 years is a good time to switch
3 years is okay
2 years is bad
1 year is very bad
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