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Old 02-16-2017, 03:11 PM
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Since you asked a generic question, I'll answer it in a generic way.

In 4 years, you either move up or move out.

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4 years is a good time to switch
3 years is okay
2 years is bad
1 year is very bad
Disagree with the bolded, at least for lower levels. The time scale stretches out a bit (possibly to 4 years as you say) at higher levels.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:11 PM
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I appreciate the responses and everyone keeping this thread on track.

In this hypothetical scenario, it's 3 years with ASA.


More than switching jobs, it's thinking about just switching careers. Any insights on that from you all that switched careers would be appreciated. Nonlnear?
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:13 PM
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I appreciate the responses and everyone keeping this thread on track.

In this hypothetical scenario, it's 3 years with ASA.


More than switching jobs, it's thinking about just switching careers. Any insights on that from you all that switched careers would be appreciated. Nonlnear?
If you are dead set on switching careers, then always do it ASAP. Simple.
Exceptiosn may exist, but I'm having trouble thinking of any that are noteworthy in a two line post.

Like, maybe if youa re 6 months from finishing some major letters I might stick it out. But maybe not even then if the right offer came along. Face forward.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:16 PM
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Disagree with the bolded, at least for lower levels. The time scale stretches out a bit (possibly to 4 years as you say) at higher levels.
Your reading comprehension failed.

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Old 02-16-2017, 03:18 PM
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Since you asked a generic question, I'll answer it in a generic way.

In 4 years, you either move up or move out.

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4 years is a good time to switch
3 years is okay
2 years is bad
1 year is very bad
This post is crap
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This post is crap
Apparently generic = crap
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anecdotally it seems like people either fall on one side (multiple switches with <2 year tenure or same company for 8-10+ years)
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Disagree, this is just a general rule, and it's pretty close; actually it's 5th year when you absolutely have to either move up or move out, if you move out, make sure it's a new area(s) of work and expertise. At my current role (where I moved up once), I treat prior current roles as 2 separate jobs with different tasks and responsibilities.

I'd start shopping after the end of second year (depending on how you like/dislike your job) and be ready to pull the trigger.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:52 PM
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Disagree, this is just a general rule, and it's pretty close; actually it's 5th year when you absolutely have to either move up or move out, if you move out, make sure it's a new area(s) of work and expertise. At my current role (where I moved up once), I treat prior current roles as 2 separate jobs with different tasks and responsibilities.

I'd start shopping after the end of second year (depending on how you like/dislike your job) and be ready to pull the trigger.
What if you have to leave for family reasons? Do you think employers would take that into consideration?
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I was an ASA with 5 years experience at one of the large health carriers. Left for a start up company in the healthcare analytics arena. Have not regretted it (but admittedly spend less time on here now and miss all you lot!).

I felt that I could really buy in to the company's mission and definitely saw the need for them in the industry. Company is about to go public and I will be fully vested in options grants I was given at hire. Exciting times.
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