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-Accounting (you'd have to pass their test, but I think it'd be cake for you)
-Product Manager
-"Business Analyst" (this can mean literally anything but it's a good thing to search for while you're looking)

I totally understand what you mean about your job being stressful and others saying it shouldn't be. From what I've been told, being an actuary at an insurance company should be almost stress-free, but that definitely hasn't been my experience. I would say that no matter what you decide you should ask a lot of questions in the interview(s) about the work environment. No one's going to flat out tell you that their job is utter stress, but they'll probably evade your question or tell you that it "can be hectic" and then you'd know.
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If I understand correctly, OP wants a gig that is both stress-free and interesting.
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If I understand correctly, OP wants a gig that is both stress-free and interesting.
I suggest being born into a rich family and studying whatever interests you in college.
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Can't say I'd mind boring/less thinking/pay less... At least I say that in the hopes of lower expectations. I come with no self-worth my whole life, so I've been reading job descriptions and thinking, "I can't do that!" Nothing looks doable.

I do think I'm stuck being an actuary, like you and others have said.

I got into this profession because it was "automatic raises" by passing math tests. A great combination! I'm dedicated, but I'm not a "motivated go-getter," so I relied on that. I'm not AT ALL interested in becoming a director or an AVP. I want a job, do it well, keep having job. Although stuffing envelopes all day would probably drive me mad.
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It was probably uniquely crappy circumstances that I got lucky to have to deal with. But deal with that for years and you stop believing you can do anything right. Luckily, I can keep that belief to myself during interviews!
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I... don't know. I like that there's a correct answer. Or a series of correct answers, but a conclusion. That you went from start to finish and can look at what you just did and know it's right.

And it's fun. Is that weird? I really enjoyed the first 4 actuarial exams! I used to tutor a couple of friends in calculus in high school and was a TA in my FM graduate level course as an undergrad. It's something I've been good at my entire life.
good god, man, you're me!

I left my actuarial job about 8 months ago, partly because of non-work stuff but also because I didn't want to keep pushing spreadsheets around to solve to someone else's pre-determined answer. Now that I'm getting to the point where I think, "I need to look for a new job", I'm not sure what to look for.

Actuary? Data scientist? Quantitative researcher?

I appreciate the suggestion for indeed. I'm going to use that. Biggest thing I think I'm going to do is basically DTNF's suggestion earlier:

1) Find a company I want to work for.
2) Get a job with that company.

Hardest part will be identifying #1, I think.
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Old 11-11-2015, 11:17 PM
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Wait, what? Where did you get that from? I never said interesting (AFAIK), just above the level of stuffing envelopes. I asked about something "actuary adjacent" because I would actually have SOME knowledge to transfer over.

I even explicitly said I wouldn't mind boring - to a point.
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good god, man, you're me!

I left my actuarial job about 8 months ago, partly because of non-work stuff but also because I didn't want to keep pushing spreadsheets around to solve to someone else's pre-determined answer. Now that I'm getting to the point where I think, "I need to look for a new job", I'm not sure what to look for.

Actuary? Data scientist? Quantitative researcher?

I appreciate the suggestion for indeed. I'm going to use that. Biggest thing I think I'm going to do is basically DTNF's suggestion earlier:

1) Find a company I want to work for.
2) Get a job with that company.

Hardest part will be identifying #1, I think.


Yeahhhhh... God willing I just get this job with the city. The only one that I found so far and kind of perfect (as far as I might be able to do it comptenetly, or so my friends tell me I can). I'm counting on not many people wanting a lower paying gov't job as an actuary.
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Wait, what? Where did you get that from? I never said interesting (AFAIK), just above the level of stuffing envelopes. I asked about something "actuary adjacent" because I would actually have SOME knowledge to transfer over.

I even explicitly said I wouldn't mind boring - to a point.
I remember reading your posts in this thread and that's the impression I got.
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1) Find a company I want to work for.
2) Get a job with that company.

Hardest part will be identifying #1, I think.
#1 should be pretty easy. Literally just write down things you're interested in.

If #1 was worded like this:

1) Find a company I want to work for that will pay me a lot of money.

...then it isn't as easy.

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I remember reading your posts in this thread and that's the impression I got.
Oh, OK. I reread all of my posts in that thread and I'm not sure where you got that. Anyway, interesting would be nice, but I haven't expressed that. Monotonous with some level of thinking involved would be fine.
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