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Old 04-18-2019, 03:39 PM
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my siblings and i all had the measles and chicken pox as children. i remember families hoping all their kids would get sick at the same time since that would be easier than multiple rounds of illness in the same household. it was just a given that kids would get these diseases and it was very odd to find an adult who had not had them as a kid.

measles/pox parties made sense in a world without vaccines for those diseases. now? no. get the effing vaccine on schedule for cryin' out loud.
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I just missed out on the German Measles vaccine (rubella) since I got that just before the vaccine became widely available. I got every other vaccine going because my mother saw a number of her friends and their siblings fall to polio, diphtheria, etc. Those experiences made her very pro-vaccine. Thanks, Mom!
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To make it very simple: Stu is not to be close to anybody with a live virus vaccine, even if weak. The flu shot is fine and many other vaccines are just fine. I make sure we all get the flu shot every year.

Stu has incurable cancer (given current knowledge of cancer), and we are expecting that he will be on tablet chemo til he dies (or the chemo causes too much trouble). Either way, his immune system is severely compromised.

Once Stu dies, obviously D can get a second shot, and I'll be sure to do so.
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my siblings and i all had the measles and chicken pox as children. i remember families hoping all their kids would get sick at the same time since that would be easier than multiple rounds of illness in the same household. it was just a given that kids would get these diseases and it was very odd to find an adult who had not had them as a kid.

measles/pox parties made sense in a world without vaccines for those diseases. now? no. get the effing vaccine on schedule for cryin' out loud.


Measles parties weren't a thing by the time I was a kid because there was a vaccine, but chicken pox parties absolutely were. Made sense in the absence of a vaccine, but not now that there is one.
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To make it very simple: Stu is not to be close to anybody with a live virus vaccine, even if weak. The flu shot is fine and many other vaccines are just fine. I make sure we all get the flu shot every year.

Stu has incurable cancer (given current knowledge of cancer), and we are expecting that he will be on tablet chemo til he dies (or the chemo causes too much trouble). Either way, his immune system is severely compromised.

Once Stu dies, obviously D can get a second shot, and I'll be sure to do so.
I'm so sorry campbell, I didn't realize that it was as bad as all that. I hope my post wasn't insensitive or upsetting.

Hugs and prayers to all of you.
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Most recent thing I had to say about the situation:
https://meep.livejournal.com/2164910.html

I am unlikely to get upset over questions, but that's not true of all people.
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U.S. measles cases surge as officials scramble to stop near-record outbreak

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The United States is on track to surpass the record number of measles cases in a single year since the disease was declared eliminated in 2000, according to figures reported Monday. For the fourth week in a row, health officials have added dozens of new cases to the year’s list of confirmed ones, bringing the total to 626 — already the highest number in the past five years.

The number of people sickened by the highly contagious, potentially deadly disease increased by 71 during the third week of April, with 22 states reporting cases. In 2014, the United States had a record 667 cases, including one large outbreak primarily among unvaccinated Amish communities in Ohio that accounted for more than half of the cases that year.

Health officials said they expect 2019′s case counts to jump in the coming weeks because of increased disease spread during Easter and Passover gatherings. Officials in New York City, location of the largest outbreak in the country, are especially worried. At least 303 cases have been reported this year, virtually all in Brooklyn. New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot said she is bracing for an increase.


“Because of measles’ long incubation period, we know this outbreak will get worse before it gets better," she said last week.

The CDC figures, updated Monday, report cases as of April 18, before the start of the holidays.

The states that have reported cases to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas and Washington.

The outbreaks are linked to travelers who brought measles back from countries such as Israel, Ukraine and the Philippines, where large measles outbreaks are occurring.

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Despite the evidence, the anti-vaccination movement is gaining strength. (Luis Velarde/The Washington Post)

The majority of people who have fallen ill were unvaccinated, officials said. In some communities, anti-vaccine activists have spread false claims about the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, fueling refusal or hesitancy among parents about immunizing their children. When many people in a community have not been vaccinated, the disease can spread quickly. It can cause serious complications among all age groups, especially young children, adults with weakened immune systems and the very elderly.

[Do I need another MMR vaccine shot and other measles questions answered]

The CDC defines an outbreak as three or more cases. In addition to New York City, there are outbreaks in California; Rockland County, N.Y.; New Jersey; and Michigan, where almost all 43 cases are linked to one man who traveled to the Detroit area from Brooklyn, unaware that he had measles.

California has 23 cases, including four in San Mateo County, which include an adult who visited Google headquarters in Mountainview, and 13 cases in Butte County in northern California, the region devastated by the most destructive wildfire in history.

In Washington state, 74 people contracted the infection, including 63 who were unvaccinated. Health officials are expected to declare that outbreak over if no more cases are reported by Wednesday. That’s two incubation periods (42 days) without new cases.


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