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Old 09-13-2017, 11:53 PM
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In other news, I decided to cancel my Tidal subscription. I was encountering more and more streaming issues. Songs would just hang up right in the middle. Other songs would buffer forever before playing. (I actually waited for one, and it was about 5 minutes of silence!)

I switched to Apple Music. Yeah, I'm missing something in resolution, but it's not huge. I'm hoping rumors are true that Spotify is working on releasing a high res tier, because that would address their only shortcoming. Otherwise, I may look into downloading FLAC files (hdtracks.com, etc.) for the occasional album that would really benefit from the extra detail (classical music, in particular.)

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Old 09-14-2017, 12:13 AM
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In other news, I decided to cancel my Tidal subscription. I was encountering more and more streaming issues. Songs would just hang up right in the middle. Other songs would buffer forever before playing. (I actually waited for one, and it was about 5 minutes of silence!)

I switched to Apple Music. Yeah, I'm missing something in resolution, but it's not huge. I'm hoping rumors are true that Spotify is working on releasing a high res tier, because that would address their only shortcoming. Otherwise, I may look into downloading FLAC files (hdtracks.com, etc.) for the occasional album that would really benefit from the extra detail (classical music, in particular.)
Keep me posted. I haven't hopped on paying for high def audio but I intend to! I know someone else who canceled Tidal, and I think for similar reasons. If Spotify offers it I pledge to jump on it and at least try it out!
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:14 PM
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My wife is willing to let me get two of the GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Traps for my birthday. It's 2 months away, but I'm trying to figure out if I really want to drop $458 on room treatments.

I came up with the idea of getting 2 because I'm struggling with whether I would want the optional Scatter Plate added. I'm thinking I would, but scattering is not generally recommended for first reflection points. So if I got two, I could play around with placement, see where scattering provides the most benefit, where straight-up absorption helps most, etc. Plus, with two of these, I would get more bass trapping, which apparently actually improves bass perception, interestingly enough.

When I first reached out to GIK, they recommended getting 3 cheaper standing bass traps, because I would have a lot of flexibility for placement. I think it will be hard enough to find storage for 2 of these things when I need to leave the room "visitor friendly."

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Old 09-20-2017, 12:45 AM
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My wife is willing to let me get two of the GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Traps for my birthday. It's 2 months away, but I'm trying to figure out if I really want to drop $458 on room treatments.

I came up with the idea of getting 2 because I'm struggling with whether I would want the optional Scatter Plate added. I'm thinking I would, but scattering is not generally recommended for first reflection points. So if I got two, I could play around with placement, see where scattering provides the most benefit, where straight-up absorption helps most, etc. Plus, with two of these, I would get more bass trapping, which apparently actually improves bass perception, interestingly enough.

When I first reached out to GIK, they recommended getting 3 cheaper standing bass traps, because I would have a lot of flexibility for placement. I think it will be hard enough to find storage for 2 of these things when I need to leave the room "visitor friendly."
Missed this post. Do you think you could rig up some more treatments like your mattress topper? Maybe egg crate foam, or fiberglass, or something? If the internets could tell you what material/thickness you need to absorb certain freqs. I'm wondering if you could mock up something super ugly for like $50. Play around with one vs two, and varying location. Maybe get an idea if you want 1/2/3 whenever you step up to something nice.

Maybe more trouble than it's worth. As you have probably surmised, I've been feeling pretty experimental these days.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:50 AM
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I got my mic out and applied some EQ to my mains and subs. I needed a bit more treble, and my bass was pretty fat. Got it all mostly lined out, and then tweaked it 1dB here and there, sounded pretty good.

And then I remembered that I had hauled my Aura 18" downstairs, but didn't remember to turn on the amp. So I will have to re-do my bass EQ.

No idea what to do next. Maybe follow your lead on room treatments. I want to do a big tapped horn, but I'm seriously overflowing on subs. Maybe try a cheap-o build with some SEOS horns. Or a paraline, those look neat. I'd also like to get back to car audio, but don't plan on keeping my car much longer, so that would be kind of a waste.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:56 AM
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Missed this post. Do you think you could rig up some more treatments like your mattress topper? Maybe egg crate foam, or fiberglass, or something? If the internets could tell you what material/thickness you need to absorb certain freqs. I'm wondering if you could mock up something super ugly for like $50. Play around with one vs two, and varying location. Maybe get an idea if you want 1/2/3 whenever you step up to something nice.

Maybe more trouble than it's worth. As you have probably surmised, I've been feeling pretty experimental these days.
I'm not much of a DIY guy. And my wife really didn't like the mattress topper solution.
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:29 PM
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It's shocking to me the quality of recording for some really old music. Listening to Brubeck's "Take Five" from the late 50s, and the drums sound like they're in my family room. I'm loving the compression driver's contribution to this lifelike sound.

A friend tells me that he saw a documentary claiming that audio engineers didn't figure out how to mic correctly the string bass until closer to 1970, resulting in bass being insufficiently pronounced in all these early recordings. The bass is certainly more subtle in this Brubeck music than in a lot of modern recordings, but I didn't know if that was a stylistic choice of the time. I actually think I prefer bass more subdued like this.
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:58 PM
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I'm finding that I like sound reflected from behind me. Somebody from one of the companies producing acoustic treatments said to try putting a thick blanket over your listening chair, particularly if it's a leather one (which will reflect more than a fabric-covered chair.) It certainly deadened the sound, but not in a way I liked. Removing the blanket brought back the sense of "spaciousness" that I like.

I'm still excited to get the bass traps in November, though, because early reflections are a whole different deal, and really mess with width of soundstage.
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It always amazes me how terrible the recording quality is on hard rock of the late 60s and early 70s. No one had figured out distortion guitars yet and some of those tones produced will make your ears bleed ("Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling Stones is a great example of one of the worst guitar tones you will ever hear on an album). A lot of that rawness is what made rock what it is today, but holy cow is it noticeable 50 years later. Even outside the tone issues, you had timing issues and very shaky takes that made it to the final print. It's jarring when juxtaposed with modern production value.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:48 PM
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It always amazes me how terrible the recording quality is on hard rock of the late 60s and early 70s. No one had figured out distortion guitars yet and some of those tones produced will make your ears bleed ("Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling Stones is a great example of one of the worst guitar tones you will ever hear on an album). A lot of that rawness is what made rock what it is today, but holy cow is it noticeable 50 years later. Even outside the tone issues, you had timing issues and very shaky takes that made it to the final print. It's jarring when juxtaposed with modern production value.
Yep, I find that I really don't like a lot of hard rock from that era when listening on the good stereo. It's just too jarring, like you said, compared to superior recording. Still fun to listen to on my ordinary car stereo. But pretty terrible in hifi.
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