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Old 09-14-2018, 11:03 AM
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This line of thinking is so old school, I don't know what to say. Keep in mind that OP is at least 10 years younger than the rest of us here. Sure, Excel can be useful for working on the occasional legacy system every now and then. Access? What a joke. Don't even get me started man.

If your company uses Access, it's probably the product of some actuary who's sadly proud of his work and think he's built something amazing, but probably doesn't do anything important or productive. It's such a junk toy that I can't think of any good reason why anyone would want to use it in a business environment.
Some of the Directors and Executives here use Access, but only for ad hoc type queries. It rarely makes it way into production work streams.

Telling someone to learn access over base SQL or R is really really bad advice.

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Old 09-14-2018, 12:10 PM
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This line of thinking is so old school, I don't know what to say. Keep in mind that OP is at least 10 years younger than the rest of us here. Sure, Excel can be useful for working on the occasional legacy system every now and then. Access? What a joke. Don't even get me started man.

If your company uses Access, it's probably the product of some actuary who's sadly proud of his work and think he's built something amazing, but probably doesn't do anything important or productive. It's such a junk toy that I can't think of any good reason why anyone would want to use it in a business environment.
I agree with this.
In actuarial, if you know VBA and SQL very well, you should be set. Add proficiency in R, and you're golden.
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The upside of telling somebody to use Access is it takes a morning!

Then move on to something else.
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Go easy on the Access dude, I was still using Cobol not too long ago haha
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...If your company uses Access, it's probably the product of some actuary who's sadly proud of his work and think he's built something amazing, but probably doesn't do anything important or productive...
I agree with the rest of your post (learn something better than access) but this is garbage. There are lots of legacy bits and bobs that are written in a sub-optimal way by someone who wasn't a programmer but who understood the actuarial issues extremely well. Some of them are extremely valuable, even though no one in their right might would build them that way today.

(I don't personally have any legacy access applications. I maybe used access for a few months a decade ago, and I despite it for various good reasons. But you are wrong to dismiss the project just because it's written in access, or whatever.)
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