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I looked but couldn't find anything on the AO about this. Has anyone ever heard of or been a part of Topgrading interviews? Apparently it's a big deal:

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A doctoral thesis at Georgia State University examined six different companies who employed topgrading. Between the six companies, a total of around 1,000 new hires were made during the study. Results of the study showed that the average pre-topgrading "mis-hire" rate was 69.3%. After the implementation of topgrading, however, the average mis-hire rate dropped to 10.5%
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I've had one. Bring water because you'll be dehydrated.

Personally, I think they're a load of garbage because they attract people who are willing to put up with it, such as myself, rather than top talent.
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I looked but couldn't find anything on the AO about this. Has anyone ever heard of or been a part of Topgrading interviews? Apparently it's a big deal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topgrading


Would be curious to hear people's experiences.
I've not had one (either as interviewer or interviewee), but I've read the book.
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I've not had one (either as interviewer or interviewee), but I've read the book.
And what did you think? Would you implement it from the employer's side if you could? Or partially implement it?
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I've had one. Bring water because you'll be dehydrated.

Personally, I think they're a load of garbage because they attract people who are willing to put up with it, such as myself, rather than top talent.
I've never been through one, so I guess I'm not clear on exactly how it's different from a normal interview. From what I can read it sounds like they ask you more about historical information (past jobs) and your motivations for things, rather than behavioral type questions.

I would think that could still be completed within a day's worth of interviews. At my company we do full day interviews, so I'm trying to figure out why this would be worse.
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I wonder if GE used Topgrading to promote Immelt.
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I never ask behavioral questions as it is. (I find most of them to be bullshit)

I generally go over a person's resume, and dig into details. That's what I did before I read the book, and that's what I do now. I'm looking for substance.
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I've never been through one, so I guess I'm not clear on exactly how it's different from a normal interview. From what I can read it sounds like they ask you more about historical information (past jobs) and your motivations for things, rather than behavioral type questions.

I would think that could still be completed within a day's worth of interviews. At my company we do full day interviews, so I'm trying to figure out why this would be worse.
They ask you about what trophies you won as a kid and that's about it.
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Results of the study showed that the average pre-topgrading "mis-hire" rate was 69.3%. After the implementation of topgrading, however, the average mis-hire rate dropped to 10.5%
I'm very doubtful of this claim. Guessing that companies that volunteered for the study were ones that did basically no sort of formal hiring process, so the implementation of anything improved results...or through the "topgrading process" they simply redefined the definition of mis-hiring so that before and after numbers are completely meaningless.

ETA: No interest in finding and reading the study to find out what they actually did.
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one of the first steps in topgrading is to tell candidates that, at the end of the interview process, they must organize their own reference checks from former managers, colleagues, and others.
that's interesting. I thought it was becoming more common for companies to not allow references and only allow verification of employment dates.
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