Diet Soda

[Nee-2-No-Bases]

Originally Posted by JasonScandopolous

People are mostly morons and have believed this for a long time with no evidence, much like most of the stuff that health nuts freak out over for no reason.

Secondarily, there is a correlation vs. causation thing: someone drinking diet soda likes soda (which is correlated with having an unhealthy diet at some point), and at the same time thinks that they need to lose weight (which is correlated with being fat).

Thirdly, there are recent rodent studies that demonstrate that your body does produce an insulin response to the artificial sweeteners present, which would indeed make you fat over time without actually having the drink contain any calories. This has not been demonstrated in humans yet to my knowledge (all human studies that I have seen are shitty longitudinal ones and worthless due to correlation vs. causation), but is the only worrying thing on this topic IMO.

And I have heard, along the same reasoning, that it can increase the chances of diabetes. Basically, you train your body to stop producing insulin when you ingest sugar. Because you fake it out so much with artificial sweeteners. It produces insulin in response to the sweenteners thinking they are sugar. Then they turn out not to be. Eventually the body learns and stops producing as much insulin, even when real sugar is consumed.


Could be total BS, though.

[Patience]

Originally Posted by secondlife

Tea is very good for you, anti-oxidant.

I measured my waist size over the naval to calculate waist/height ratio; also I read pant sizes are actually bigger than that is given in the label.

I do know guys with large pot bellies that wear their pants below, which also would create the same measuring anomaly

[Guerilla poster]

Originally Posted by Patience

ok, that is the one I have heard - so if I am able to stick to my calorie counts, no real harm.

I also believe that carbonated beverages make me feel fuller, so I can postpone or put off having a snack.

I drink sparkling water, gay right?

Eliminated diet soda, and too be honest feel alot better, used to drink two a day at work. Could be a placebo thing, who knows.

[Patience]

Originally Posted by WhyAndHow

Diet soda is also acidic, so it upsets your body's pH and has potential to cause or exasperate heart burn. Also terrible for your teeth.

Interesting that you consider an apple dessert, but not fake liquid candy.

I eat dessert for three basic reasons - I need something sweet and/or more food after a meal. An apple serves that purpose. Or as a snack to hold me until a meal.

A soda, does not do that. I do not find it that sweet. Though I do find it refreshing if hot or as a beverage with a meal. In no way will it serve as a dessert.

I will substitute a glass of wine for dessert on occassion.

On the golf course I drink water - 2 to 3 bottles.

Normally I drink 20- 40 oz of water daily
20 oz of coffee
20 - 40 oz Iced Tea (a lot more if after golf, can easily down a pitcher)
12 oz diet soda

I add no sweetner to tea or coffee
Skim milk to coffee

[Patience]

Originally Posted by Guerilla poster

I drink sparkling water, gay right?

to popular now a days (unless for ask for specific brand)

I just don't like the taste of sparkling water, seltzer, club soda

[Guerilla poster]

Originally Posted by Patience

to popular now a days (unless for ask for specific brand)

I just don't like the taste of sparkling water, seltzer, club soda

hmmm, interesting, it is pretty tasteless, just the bubbly goodness.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Patience

I eat dessert for three basic reasons - I need something sweet and/or more food after a meal. An apple serves that purpose. Or as a snack to hold me until a meal.

A soda, does not do that. I do not find it that sweet. Though I do find it refreshing if hot or as a beverage with a meal. In no way will it serve as a dessert.

I will substitute a glass of wine for dessert on occassion.

On the golf course I drink water - 2 to 3 bottles.

Normally I drink 20- 40 oz of water daily
20 oz of coffee
20 - 40 oz Iced Tea (a lot more if after golf, can easily down a pitcher)
12 oz diet soda

I add no sweetner to tea or coffee
Skim milk to coffee

This doesn't seem like enough water. I do drink a lot of water on a normal day. I have a 24oz water bottle at work that I typically fill up about 4 times a day. All together I probably drink around about a gallon a day. But I always feel thirsty though, so I might be on the high end.