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Anyone doing actuarial work for a living can call themselves an actuary.

I once was in a meeting of insurance professionals where we went around saying what we did before I was credentialed. Not being credentialed, I said I do actuarial work, but didn't say I was an actuary. 3 credentialed actuaries came up to me later and said, don't do that, you're doing actuarial work, say you're an actuary.

I would pass that same advice along. If you're getting paid to do actuarial work, you're an actuary. If anyone asks what you do or are, it's an actuary.
So a paid intern is an actuary in your world? Is a law student working as a summer associate a lawyer, too?
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So a paid intern is an actuary in your world? Is a law student working as a summer associate a lawyer, too?
can someone call themselves an accountant without a CPA? yep, so uncredentialled people working in the actuarial profession can call themselves actuaries.
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do you suddenly become more competent at your job because you're an ASA? nope. plenty of competent people at my company who don't have credentials. it's pretty irrelevant really.
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So a paid intern is an actuary in your world? Is a law student working as a summer associate a lawyer, too?
no they are college kids that are interns. If you asked them what they did, I think 99% of them would say, I'm currently in college.

What would you call an accountant that doesn't have their CPA?
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it's funny that mflg is telling people what they can call themselves. i can call myself whatever the hell i want and you can't stop me.
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when i meet people and they ask me what i do, i'm not gonna jump through hoops to avoid the word actuary. come the **** on.
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no they are college kids that are interns. If you asked them what they did, I think 99% of them would say, I'm currently in college.

What would you call an accountant that doesn't have their CPA?
You said if you're getting paid to do actuarial work. It's not my fault you don't take the time to fully think through what you post. I would have to check with family to see whether law school grads who have yet to pass the bar are commonly called lawyers or not.

It's fine that you don't think it matters; I generally disagree, as does basically everyone I have worked with. That doesn't mean anything about the quality of their work, on either the credentialed or non-credentialed side.
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