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Old 09-15-2017, 10:50 AM
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Several years ago, intermediary "blah" had me do an evaluation for its contract with Accenture (not actuarial, though). The Accenture manager interviewed me and made that question. I've never been into white-collar cheerleading, so my answer was just "well, why not?". Based on his facial expression, I can tell he didn't expect that. Few days later, the same manager with two others interviewed me to be in Accenture's payroll, without the intermediary.

Accenture ended up selecting me through both venues. That is, I could choose to be either in the intermediary's payroll or in Accenture's payroll. I ended up declining both options because I accepted employment elsewhere (you know, Accenture is synonym for extra-long work hours).

I think the question is pointless. Generally speaking, you just want to advance or resume your career, period.
What's white collar cheerleading?
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:25 AM
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I think the question is pointless. Generally speaking, you just want to advance or resume your career, period.
Then the question is "why do you think working for us will advance your career?" This sort of thing is not the greatest interview question, but it is designed to differentiate between those desperate for any job or just testing the waters and those who actually see value in the company itself. Which is useful to know if you can get at it.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:03 PM
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What's white collar cheerleading?
Those suck-up answers suggested early on in this thread.
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Those suck-up answers suggested early on in this thread.
Exactly. JMO worded it perfectly: the suck-up answers.

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Then the question is "why do you think working for us will advance your career?" This sort of thing is not the greatest interview question, but it is designed to differentiate between those desperate for any job or just testing the waters and those who actually see value in the company itself.
You can't expect an outsider to really know whether there's that much value in the company itself. Discarding a candidate simply because he or she seems desperate may be a bad idea. You have to select the one with right the skills set and who possesses attributes such as reliability and authenticity.

A candidate's skills set or background can reveal that he/she is not necessarily testing the waters.
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There have been a few cases where I've seen people get hired mainly because they were desperate.

Their jobs sucked for the most part, but I guess both parties ended up getting what they wanted.
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