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You gotta start from the bottom. My first office job was that of a data-entry clerk at a reinsurer. I worked there part-time for two years during college, and it helped me get actuarial internships which led to a permanent actuarial job. Get any office job you can.


And I think that having a job, any kind of job, might help reduce the over-anxiety that has been displayed in other threads by the OP.

Mailroom people have the opportunity to build a network at their company. Not a thing to sneer at. Just sayin'
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Sometimes jobs are posted internally before they are posted externally, so I guess that would give you a leg up there. Also, you probably wouldn't have to mess with a background check if coming from the same company.
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That's exactly what I said a couple posts up. I did the same types of jobs...in HS and college! No way a college grad with skills is using their time wisely doing those types of jobs. The easiest way to realize this is: do you think they'll take him off FT status and offer him an internship?
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I went from having basically never worked before to being an actuary. I had no internships during college.
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Thanks for your input everyone. I think the colonel is right. I decided not to send in my resume. However, would an Administrative Assistant position be just as bad career advancement wise? I suppose I wouldn't be opening someone else's mail all day, but it also seems like a dead-end job. I guess I'm feeling a little desperate today, and was wondering if it could give me a leg up for actuarial positions down the road.
Why do you care if it's a dead-end job? you're only planning to stay there for a short-term anyways.
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Have you worked a dead-end job? The style of your manager, the direction your manager gives you, and what you learn from your coworkers is almost entirely the opposite of what you need to be learning for a professional career.
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Okay I lied a little when I said I never worked before being an actuary. I did have a random high school job but that was because I needed the pittance to pay for whatever random stuff teenagers like to get. I forget. But it had zero effect on my hireability as an EL.
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I wouldn't take the job unless I was desperate. Certainly there are lots of other jobs out there you can get that are waaaay better experience. I would sooner take a spreadsheet monkey at a non-insurer than a mailroom job at an insurer.

I do think that actuarial wannabes should expand their initial job search beyond just actuarial positions. There are plenty of other types of rewarding jobs out there. And for those of you that may have struggled with the preliminary exams, you might not be cut out for the career in the first place.
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