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Old 04-14-2019, 11:12 PM
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More jobs doesn't mean a better chance of success if the ratio of applicants to positions is higher on the SOA side.

With this latest fiasco of only 3 common exams (there were 5 common exams not so long ago) and ELs often getting four exams before landing their first actuarial position, how many others will think "I'll choose the SOA exam as my fourth because there are more jobs"?

Choosing to take the fourth SOA exam (or CAS exam) without knowing for sure that it's the path that one is suited to, could mean a lot of wasted effort. On the other hand, there are other skills which will be useful to both paths so, to me, it would make more sense to prioritize those before taking the fourth.

Of course, there may be employers out there who may prefer four-exam to three-exam candidates regardless of other skills but I don't think that would be too common.
Good point about the ratio of applicants. would having a 4th exam on the CAS side look bad for SOA jobs(and vice versa)?
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Good point about the ratio of applicants. would having a 4th exam on the CAS side look bad for SOA jobs(and vice versa)?
No, you just don't list it on your resume. It wouldn't matter even if you did.
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No, you just don't list it on your resume. It wouldn't matter even if you did.
+1 for having multiple resume versions based on the job applying for.

keep track of which version you sent where.
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+1 for having multiple resume versions based on the job applying for.

keep track of which version you sent where.
Wonít know know when you send them a transcript of exam results?
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:48 PM
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Wonít know know when you send them a transcript of exam results?
Having more than you claim on a resume isn't a problem.

If you're going for a CAS-related position, you can get a CAS transcript.

If you're going for an SOA-related position, you can get an SOA transcript.

Neither one is difficult.
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So in the absence of things like sub 3.0 GPA, unwillingness to relocate, DUI, etc, you think someone with 3-4 exams should be able to get into the field?
Nothing is guaranteed. You seem to be wanting some guarantee.

"Qualified" is not enough. You have to be the best candidate available for the opening.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:50 PM
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Nothing is guaranteed. You seem to be wanting some guarantee.

"Qualified" is not enough. You have to be the best candidate available for the opening.
So there are many qualified applicants who must go into other fields, as I thought.
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I feel like your school could impact things somewhat. What are your thoughts? LIke if you go to a feeder school like UConn or Madison, etc., would you say they have much higher chance of finding a job, since all big companies recruit there?
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So there are many qualified applicants who must go into other fields, as I thought.
Yeah, probably, but that's not exactly what he said. Each particular hiring is judged independently and "best candidate" is defined by each individual hiring manager. And there's nothing that inherently limits you to one interview. And there are things, in addition to exams, that you can do to become a better candidate.
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:13 PM
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Yeah, probably, but that's not exactly what he said. Each particular hiring is judged independently and "best candidate" is defined by each individual hiring manager. And there's nothing that inherently limits you to one interview. And there are things, in addition to exams, that you can do to become a better candidate.
Learning programming being the main one, I suppose?
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