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Old 04-15-2019, 04:15 PM
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Wonít know know when you send them a transcript of exam results?
Do employers actually ask for transcripts?
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Do employers actually ask for transcripts?
I would think so if they got to the later interview stages.
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:31 PM
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I would think so if they got to the later interview stages.
The field has definitely changed since I started out. I feel kinda bad for you kids these days.
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Good point about the ratio of applicants. would having a 4th exam on the CAS side look bad for SOA jobs(and vice versa)?
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No, you just don't list it on your resume. It wouldn't matter even if you did.
I'll disagree with this and say that you should definitely include exams from the ďwrongĒ society on your resume. It shows that you can pass exams, and it explains what might otherwise look like a gap in exam progress. If you omit a CAS exam at a life insurance company, Iím going to assume that you took an SOA exam but failed it. If you include the CAS exam, Iíll probably ask you about it in an interview to make sure you understand the differences in exam tracks, but itís a pretty easy question to answer. Most interviewers will be sympathetic to candidates that have to pick an exam track before ever working in the field. It's only like that because of SOA vs. CAS infighting, so interviewers arenít going to blame the entry-level candidates that get stuck in the crossfire. As long as you can communicate why you took the exam in a way that doesnít make you look like a flight risk for a job in another field, itíll be viewed positively.
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I shadowed a few local actuaries last week and was surprised at how bad some of the colleges they attended were. Two of the four went to private colleges with SAT scores in the 1000-1100 range. To me this was very odd especially given how competitive EL is said to be on forums.
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Learning programming being the main one, I suppose?
Yeah, it's something (especially if you're not a "qualified" candidate without it), but I was thinking more like

1) Write your resume in the way that sells you best
2) Develop your interviewing skills to best sell you
3) Maybe networking?

I think in a way this gets back to what DTNF said. You need to make the hiring manager think you're the best candidate.
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I shadowed a few local actuaries last week and was surprised at how bad some of the colleges they attended were. Two of the four went to private colleges with SAT scores in the 1000-1100 range. To me this was very odd especially given how competitive EL is said to be on forums.
Actuarial is only competitive now. It was not 15+ years ago. Back then, the standard for EL was much lower.
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Actuarial is only competitive now. It was not 15+ years ago. Back then, the standard for EL was much lower.
True. I got a (well) paid internship with no exams, a bachelor's in applied mathematics, and half of a masters in math still in progress. After I passed one exam (which the company paid for, even for an intern), I was hired full time. I had only one exam when I changed companies and moved across the country.

It's way more competitive now.
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They were all under 27.
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