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Old 06-13-2018, 11:10 AM
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... I'm afraid that it will be offered twice a year (summer/winter). Add that concern to a likely 12+ week grading window means that skipping on the first sitting may delay getting an ASA until the second half of 2019 (and that assumes you pass on the first attempt!).

Have you started on FAP yet? If not, I'd recommend getting through that ASAP so you can focus on the first sitting. I'm hoping to get several months of studying in, but I know materials will be sparse and little is known about the PA "modules."
Since I already studied for and took MLC and my Econ VEE this year, I only have enough company sponsored study hours left to tackle one of the two this year, unfortunately. Thinking about the grading period and 4-6 months between sittings makes me want to do the PA exam a bit more now, since I can work through FAP while waiting for PA results... That could hopefully allow me to get my ASA one year from now.

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Old 06-13-2018, 01:17 PM
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Since I already studied for and took MLC and my Econ VEE this year, I only have enough company sponsored study hours left to tackle one of the two this year, unfortunately. Thinking about the grading period and 4-6 months between sittings makes me want to do the PA exam a bit more now, since I can work through FAP while waiting for PA results... That could hopefully allow me to get my ASA one year from now.

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Yeah, that's tough. I think either route makes sense: focus on FAP, meaning you'll miss the first PA sitting, but the available study materials will probably be better for the second PA sitting; or focus on PA, meaning you'll delay FAP but be able to work on it while waiting for PA results.

It might be smart to get a head start on FAP before the PA module is released then transition to PA full-time, too. The FAP subscription is good for two years, and if you invest some personal time you could definitely get a couple modules wrapped up in the next month.

In any event, best wishes and happy studying.
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Old 06-18-2018, 12:45 PM
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As someone who missed the old requirements by missing only the FA on the FAP, I am obviously very bitter about having to not only redo that, but this PA nonsense also.

Is it just me or from reading the PA syllabus, that it is basically:

- a glorified FA, but with only 5 hours instead of 96
- a money grab given the $1,125 price tag
- just another obstacle thrown up for the sake of throwing up another obstacle

I'm willing to hear from others, especially people who pushed for the 3/30 FAP deadline and came up short.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:22 AM
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As someone who missed the old requirements by missing only the FA on the FAP, I am obviously very bitter about having to not only redo that, but this PA nonsense also.

Is it just me or from reading the PA syllabus, that it is basically:

- a glorified FA, but with only 5 hours instead of 96
- a money grab given the $1,125 price tag
- just another obstacle thrown up for the sake of throwing up another obstacle

I'm willing to hear from others, especially people who pushed for the 3/30 FAP deadline and came up short.
I was able to make the deadline (barely), but I've read the PA syllabus and the emails on PA. My takeaways were the same. I'm hoping that the modules related to it will help prepare candidates for it, but I have my doubts that they will.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:34 AM
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It might be smart to get a head start on FAP before the PA module is released then transition to PA full-time, too. The FAP subscription is good for two years, and if you invest some personal time you could definitely get a couple modules wrapped up in the next month.
In any event, best wishes and happy studying.
I'm going this route. Just started the IA and... I'll just say select a month when you will have a LOT of time!! PA will be out once I finish IA. And 5 days for FA is downright scary--I plan on being unreachable then.

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Just go the TIA R course. Hoping to fly through that before modules are released.

Then, fingers crossed that modules won't take too long and will prepare me enough for the actual exam. Who knows?
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so we can't actually get started on this until after 7/24 right
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Actex released SRM manual on Tuesday, but ASM is supposed to be available about mid-Aug. TIA told me the seminar should be available but August
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PA Syllabus was updated today. Looks like the final deliverable might be similar to the FA, with heavy emphasis on the model building aspects. Nine (!!) modules to cover everything. Looks like supplemental materials won't be necessary for this one, provided that the candidate works through the required SRM material.

https://www.soa.org/Education/Exam-R...pa-detail.aspx
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:27 PM
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As someone who missed the old requirements by missing only the FA on the FAP, I am obviously very bitter about having to not only redo that, but this PA nonsense also.

Is it just me or from reading the PA syllabus, that it is basically:

- a glorified FA, but with only 5 hours instead of 96
- a money grab given the $1,125 price tag
- just another obstacle thrown up for the sake of throwing up another obstacle

I'm willing to hear from others, especially people who pushed for the 3/30 FAP deadline and came up short.
Exam C was what did me in with the deadline and was giving me fits. I passed it in June, one sitting after deadline.

I have a feeling the PA will be less intense than an exam but more intense than a module (since it is timed). I heard from an FSA colleague that the first sittings are usually not as difficult, or more strictly adhere to what we expect the SOA to ask. So I imagine the first sitting will be similar to the example project they are going to release.
**Note these are only my opinions, nothing more

I personally think adding exams was a good idea to keep designations highly competitive. I wanted a profession that is unique and as of now there are roughly 1/10,000 and 1/6,000 U.S. employed that are fellows and at minimum associates (either society), respectively. That's pretty badass, and is at risk of being diluted with all of the interest the profession has received in the past decade.

Sidenote: I was also forced to do the modules quickly (2 - IA in 3 weeks) (6 - FA in one month) in order to stay in my employer's study program. That was worse than studying for any exam. So for those of you wondering, the modules can be done quickly, but keep in mind I lived and breathed modules during those periods.
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